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  1. Wrangler

    "Tradition" in Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism

    Clearly, you do not have any Earthly or Heavenly idea what idolatry is. Appeal to Strawman & Ad Hominem. Pointing out the proper basis of analysis encourages studying. If you want to delve into the evolution of concepts - like tradition - over time and across cultures, great. Not sure how it...
  2. Wrangler

    "Tradition" in Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism

    I believe you are over thinking it. The point is idolatry; not to make tradition into a manmade god.
  3. Wrangler

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    No buts. God is a God of order, not chaos. While God knows everything, he does not know nonsense, like square circles or trinitarianism.
  4. Wrangler

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    No. That’s reading into the text. The idea that Adonai alone is God, using singular pronouns 10,000 times should not be casually laid aside to fit your doctrine. I would get my wife a refill is not the same as Being B actually doing it.
  5. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Indeed, a thin line between life and death. Where is the risk between the doctrines? The risk lies in not taking needed action. If you don't need to act to be saved BUT you do act, no harm is done. But if I am required to feed, clothe and give Jesus something to drink and I fail, the consequence...
  6. Wrangler

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Acts explicitly states God, in his unitarian nature, raised Jesus from the dead.
  7. Wrangler

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    1 is 1. 3 is 3.
  8. Wrangler

    Proof that Jesus is God

    This thread contends there are proof of such verses that show He was and is God. No such proof has been presented. What’s been presented is imposing trinitarian doctrine onto unitarian text. See above for the purpose of this thread.
  9. Wrangler

    "Tradition" in Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism

    Agreed. For the last decade, I have taken a deep dive into cultural influence upon human thought. This is akin to ‘tradition.’ The Christian culture in America has been under attack since the Sexual Revolution of the ‘60’s. And technology has aided in abrupt cultural changes as well. So that...
  10. Wrangler

    "Tradition" in Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism

    Jews also added 100’s of laws in their ‘tradition.’ This, coupled with RCC & EOC ‘tradition’ show the human pattern over and over again to presume equality with God. The Original Sin remains alive in the fleshy part of our nature. This is why it is always prudent to return to First...
  11. Wrangler

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Crickets ... Crickets ... Crickets.
  12. Wrangler

    Proof that Jesus is God

    I’m sorry. I got distracted when U wrote this. I meant to type: False Alternative. Jesus was a man. There is only one type of flesh nature.
  13. Wrangler

    Proof that Jesus is God

    False Alternative. Where do you get the idea that a non-servant must be God? As this thread goes on, the desperate illogical claims get worse and worse of advocates of the man is God thesis.
  14. Wrangler

    Proof that Jesus is God

    LOL Sad and desperate assertion that a verse that does not even have Jesus in it is evidence of Jesus’ nature.
  15. Wrangler

    Proof that Jesus is God

    True of all first born children - until other children are begotten. Begotten is proof Jesus is, like us, a created being.
  16. Wrangler

    Proof that Jesus is God

    That’s not what Isaiah 52 & 53 say. Nor is it what Jesus says. Jesus said he did not come to be served but to serve. Jesus also said God is greater than he, knows more than he, sent him, told him what to say, raised him from the dead and gave him revelation. All of which prove Jesus is not God.
  17. Wrangler

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Not an answer to my question, showing how weak your position is.
  18. Wrangler

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Because you make unfounded assertions. Why do you except Jesus? Just assert it.
  19. Wrangler

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Why is the standard not simply more likely than not? You have not proved beyond ALL DOUBT your position. LOL
  20. Wrangler

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Proving trinitarianism cannot hold up to scrutiny. A most important question is just ignored.