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  1. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Not this crap again! Not relying again on a figurative sentence to over-ride a literal verse! Guess what? Words are not beings or people. God put his word in Jesus in fulfillment of Deuteronomy 18:15-18. Indeed, these words were the Words of God. Like all prophets, the prophet Jesus spoke God's...
  2. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    If the plural 'our' is important in Genesis 1, the singular 'me' in the 1C is even more important.
  3. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Really? You take this verse as supporting your position and sweeping the one I provided away? John is talking about equality NOT the Pharisees.
  4. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    And who raised Jesus up in verse 9?
  5. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    The words I just quoted in 1 Peter 1:3 mean nothing to you. God alone is the Father alone. The tie in to the virgin birth is a distraction and irrelevant to 1 Peter 1:3.
  6. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Except none of this is true or in the Bible. There is no 3rd person who is God. There is only God and his son. God is Spirit and he is Holy. His Spirit is wholly.
  7. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Wrong. Over and over and over the Apostles and Jesus stated the God alone is the Father alone. How did Jesus tell us to pray - only to the Father.
  8. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Nope. For admitting being the Messiah, the Son, not incarnation. See Mark 14:61-62
  9. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    That’s right. I provided multiple verses supporting my position that you ignored.
  10. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    This has been refuted so many times. The word becoming flesh in no way means God. All prophets fulfilled that role. Jesus, in particular, was the man who God said he’d select and put his words in his mouth in Deuteronomy 18:15-18.
  11. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    You don’t have to be God for committing blasphemy.
  12. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Trinitarians wish that were true. I am is not a claim of divinity but a common phrase, such as who is the one making the claim Jesus cured you? I am. Doesn’t mean I am claiming to be God. The trinity is not in the Bible. Try again.
  13. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Nothing is as unbiblical as the trinity. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word, not the idea.
  14. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Refer to the thread I started on The Case Against Trinitarianism. One verse I read is the 1C. If the plural 'our' in GE 1:26 is important, the singular 'me' in the 1C is even more important. Another is when Jesus affirmed the SHEMA, the true God is one. Mark 12:29 Jesus: 29 The most important...
  15. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Jesus said if he glorified himself, it means nothing. "Jesus replied, 'If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. John 8:54, NIV
  16. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    I explained how 3 is 1. You ought to be familiar with that sort of rationalizing. Babies don't call anyone. Yet, I believe our merciful Lord will save them nonetheless. You?
  17. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    There was no incarnation. God raised Jesus from the dead. Blessed is God, the Father of our Lord Jesus, the Anointed One! Because He has raised Jesus the Anointed from death 1 Peter 1:3 (Voice)
  18. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Paul said 'For us there is one God, the Father.' Jesus never said he was God but that God was greater than he and knew more than he. The Thomas verse is not being spun, just identified for the exclamation it is rather than a statement of the nature of the man Jesus. The SHEMA informs us the...
  19. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Except he never actually said that. He never said this is your nature, you are, etc. Again, what he said was an exclamation, like holy cow! Thomas answered Him, “My Lord and my God!” John 20:18
  20. Wrangler

    For free will believers out there

    Yes. He called Jesus his Lord but wasn't Jesus his Lord before the crucifixion? The resurrection is an unprecedented story. It's no wonder the witnesses were shocked and in disbelief. As I recall, when Mary told them, even Peter doubted, dismissed her claim. The point of the story is not what...