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Who said I was contributing to it? You attacked my president and I called you out on it.

How can you say these things and not believe your trying to earn your salvation..

I never insinuated that I could change your beliefs now did I? You made a statement that everyone believes salvation is a gift, which is not earned, And I said I disagree. You have yet to even start to prove me wring in this area. you have made it all about you You said you believe a person...

The FBI cover up and Russian stuff is starting to come out now too. We will see just how bad the hate against trump has been

It does not matter if he was guilty or not. You just proved my point, by attacking hi, and not holding Biden to the same accountability. Which was my point to begn with. Oh I agree.. But there is much evidence biden threatened to withhold funds to the place as the VP if they did not o...

I actually have people in my church that believe a person can give god the "finger" so to speak and lose salvation (that is the term they use) while I disagree with them losing salvation. I do agree with them, the end result is they will not be in heaven.

You said you believe a person can return their gift. I gave some scripture and reasons why I disagree with this thinking Are we going to discuss this or should I move on?

Are you willing to show me how that is possible?

I hate to say this, But I think you just like to argue Your premise was the fact no one here believes salvation is earned. Which in this post. I showed how I disagree with that statement then somehow you took it as I was saying YOU believe that salvation must be earned, Something I do not...

Well if they are trying to earn salvation, They reject the gift of Christ, and this will lead to eternal consequences I think someones eternity being in question is not irrevelent

As scripture says, never forget your first love, When we do so. We are in danger

Back to my origional response Thats not true, Just because Gods gift did not become less valuable does not mean some try to earn it. The jews tried to earn it by trying to add works of the law. in doing so. THEY devalued the gift and made it of no value (to them) because they tried to earn...

Either way, Enduring to the end was not a command to endure to receive eternal life. But a call to endure and never give up hope. Because if you edure to the end, Imagine, you will personally see Jesus coming in the clouds, and victory won, and enter the kingdom period having survived the...

I believe they are the most important thing in scripture for a child of God to learn, it should be the first thought taught to all new believers, because all of their growth will be made so much easier if they know these are sure and true from the beginning.

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oh wow Its funny that things are coming out that all these things said about trump and some of his people were made up by democrats. You may want to rething your position Also. I think it amazing that the man who may replace trump 1. Was guilty of the very thing trump was accused of and...

So you said you believe a person can give back his gift, And i agreed that this is what you have said, and even repeated that back to you multiple times But I am not listening? How could I earn a gift when all I did was receive it? To me it did, Because I went from being dead in Christ, to...

He said this to people in the tribulation period. That there will be great tribulation such as never seen before or after, he who endures to the end wil be saved (PHYSICALLY) eternal salvation is not in context here Salvation is not a prise it is a gift. You run to earn a reward. Thats WHY paul...

by the way, I agree with you, I do not think that person will get to heaven either. Our disagreement is in how that came to be.

1. You said you believe a person can reject a gift after he had it. I admitted that twice now. Why is it you continue to say I am not hearing you? 2. I showed you why I do not agree with you. why I do not agree that a person can just reject a gift AFTER he received it. would you like to discuss...