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1 John 5: 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God. Its powerful to know your ability and power to continue to believe in God is your...

From this response, You evidently have no desire to discuss why I do not believe what you believe. What negated the conversation is when you did not even look at what I posted and attempt to show me how I was wrong You said you think a person could willingly give away or give back their...

So your salvation is based on you keeping commands?

I never asked that, Can you please answer the question. So you believe by abiding in christ and keeping his commandments you will eventually be saved?

Here is the apostle John speaking of Bob 1 John 2: 18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that theAntichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had...

By the way, I used to believe the same.. That salvation could be lost..

Your going off one work. Do you or do you not believe that your salvation can be lost if you do not maintain a certain level of works. or righteous living? A work is a work is a work.. People think they must be baptized in water to be saved, What separates this from circumcision, is this not...

Have I misunderstood them? and if I have, can you show me how?

Who is the "all Israel" spoken of in Rom 11 25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be...

Same goes both ways And I am sorry, When God says he WILL (not might) sanctify a person. Never lose one person. And people grow based on his power and his love And you say that a person can lose salvation. Your in effect saying God failed. (in my view) That is why I will never believe...

so why will you not answer my question? Thats alright.. I know why Good day sir

so Is all Israel in romans 11 Israel proper. or all Chritians jew or gentile?

I am sorry But I can not agree. You cannot believe in Grace and think that eternal life must be earned or else it can be lost. Well John says that if people depart they were never of us, So I guess many churches take what John said as true, And do not think a person was born of God God failed...

These passage speak of current times when Jesus walked the earth Rom 11 spoke of a future event, when something would occur so can you explain what yo mean by these verses. I am not sure i understand

No its called being transformed, Its called being once dead, and made alive, and acting out your new life Its called being saved by Grace through faith. And doing the works which God created for us to do. which come natural. because it is our new nature.

Not really Either you believe your saved by Grace through faith alone (OSAS) or you believe you are saved by Grace through faith plus works (NOSAS)

you will have to forgive me, You posts are so close to fatalistic thinking, I can not tell you apart. Fatalists think exactly what I said is true. which is why I asked you

I am sorry, By saying things like this I just can not continue.. Good luck in your quest of whatever your trying to do. I will stick to the word of God

This is not true Many hear believe works are required to maintain salvation. They just do not see or admit it

continued I do not know all these things To me a christian is anyone who claims to follow Christ. If we look in the gospels. Anyone who followed christ were called disciples. Now of course, we learned that not all disciples were true believers. In the same token, not all people who claim to be...