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Clearly, this thread reveals the true passion of trinitarians, the man-is-God thesis. The Scriptural evidence is so weak, they have to rely on figurative language to suppose it supersedes the overwhelming direct evidence AGAINST trinitarianism and the man-is-God thesis, e.g, Jesus saying God...

I'll take that as you conceding the point.

Amadeus, I've noticed your posts are so generic as to be unresponsive to the particular point under discussion. People are not looking to find in the written scriptures verses to their own biases or agendas but apply scripture to the problems of living today.

No! That only works for one of God's children - for no apparent reason. Like lord Jesus means he's God but all the other lord's in the Bible don't. Again, for no apparent reason.

You said it well a few posts ago; the trinity is self-contradictory. 1 = 1; 3 = 3; 1 = 3. Mysticism and dualism.

Absolutely not! The way is to live in such a way that people ASK you the secret to that something special about you.

All God's children sit on God's throne. How does Jesus sit at the right hand of God if he were God? Romans 8:34

One of the very best anti-trinitarian verses in an anti-trinitarian book, written 100% by anti-trinitarians. (A:vi, S: v) 4 “Sh’ma, Yisra’el! Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai echad [Hear, Isra’el! Adonai our God, Adonai is one] Deuteronomy 6:4 (Complete Jewish Bible)

Jesus said God was greater than him. Jesus died and God raised him from the dead, not the other way around. After being raised by God, Jesus said he was given all authority (by God). No where does it say that Jesus gave God authority. That is not equal.

Na ah. Discrimination FOR me and mine, good. Discrimination AGAINST me and mine, mine. :)

In my devotional reading today I came across this gem: 32 He will be great, he will be called Son of Ha‘Elyon. Adonai, God, will give him the throne of his forefather David; Luke 1:32 (Complete Jewish Bible) God, in his unitarian nature, will give the throne to Jesus. This is not the language...

No. God is in his children - all his children. None of God's children are God. In my devotional reading today I came across this gem: 32 He will be great, he will be called Son of Ha‘Elyon. Adonai, God, will give him the throne of his forefather David; Luke 1:32 (Complete Jewish Bible) God...

KJV is the most error prone version around. Elohim means heavenly beings. While God is a heavenly being, not all heavenly beings are the one and only God.

Wiki quoted Scripture. Ignore it if it makes you feel better.

The notion of the woman being the victim is not part of the text. It is the man who has her under his authority who has lost as he SEXUAL MARKET VALUE has dropped substantially, being 'damaged goods' and all. Her consent is all the rage today but back then, sex was supposed to be strictly part...

Same reason they baptize in water today. Rising from the water symbolizing rebirth in the Spirit.

Right. A distinction without a difference. Most people know when a baby is born it is born BY water. It is amazing that you do not concede one point, no matter how ridiculous you project meaning onto scripture that is not in the text. "Born again" refers to being born a second time. The first...

Here is one take, the rape is not against the will of the woman but the man whose authority she is under.

'Not seeing an issue with the 1 Corinthians verse' is not the same thing as acknowledging that it goes against your notion of equality.

The eternal significance is keeping the 1C or not! There is only one God, the Father. He is Spirit and his Spirit is holy. He selected a man to be his servant, to speak his Words and to adopt after God raised the servant from the dead. Our inheritance is to also be sons and daughter's of God...