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Now does that help us distinguish Jesus’ own words from the words that are his Father’s?

Well? What is it this time? Partial fulfillment, he says. New date September 29-30, 2026. Write it on your calendar and catch the next episode.

Meanwhile, as the world turns … Jesus speaks his Father’s words. How do we know when Jesus is speaking his own words as distinct from when he is speaking the Father’s words?

“Do not read the Bible merely to get through it. Give it enough time to get through you.” - Rich Bitterman

The topic of this thread is the Messiah speaking the Father’s words. We’ve wandered away from it. Would you mind starting a new thread on / for your topic?

It’s a fine suggestion but I have other things that I have to accomplish tonight. I recently spent a week reading, meditating, and studying the chapter. Do you now? I’d like to hear it. If you do the exercise I suggested in post #210 you’ll find that elohim, when applied to the God of...

I’ve read it so many times that I’ve lost count. I’m currently reading it as part of my intensive Bible reading plan this year. (I’m reading chapters 20 & 21 daily for the next seven days.) You know what I think would benefit you? Spending some time with the Jews For Jesus ministry. (I’ve...

I’m currently re-reading The Lord’s Prayer, written by E.F. Scott. (One of my favorite books.)

Jewish monotheism never attacks the Messiah, himself a Jewish monotheist. The majority of Jewish monotheists have attacked and rejected Jesus; the minority of Jewish monotheists haven’t. You haven’t learned to distinguish between believing and unbelieving Jewish monotheists. Lumping them...

A good exercise; beneficial to everyone: How many times does the Hebrew word elohim occur in the Old Testament / Hebrew Bible? How many times is the Hebrew word elohim translated as plural in meaning in the Old Testament / Hebrew Bible? How many times is the Hebrew word elohim translated as...

The apostle, like Jesus himself and all of the other apostles, is a Jewish monotheist. Attacking monotheism is attacking Christianity. The Gospel of Elohim / the Gospel of God - I really like that phrase - is the Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus and the apostles preached.

The Lexical data confirms my point. Note, too, that this is the creed of Jewish monotheists, including Jesus and the apostles.

If you actually knew Hebrew you would tell me that it is always plural in form, not always - in fact, seldom - plural in meaning. Ask for verification from a Hebrew language expert. (I’ve quoted several on this forum.) Fully compatible with Jewish monotheism.