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I’ve answered that question dozens of times. That‘s what your words put into action look like.

What’s gone wrong is they’re following the popes rather than the Messiah.

No. You muddied the water and I clarified for @Wrangler what I was asking him about. I’ve answered all of these questions, in this thread and in others. Please see post #2090.

“In 1208, Pope Innocent III declared a major crusade to destroy the Albigenses. Some 20,000 knights and peasants answered the call, forming an army that scourged southern France, smashing towns where the belief was strong. When the beseiged city of Beziers fell, soldiers asked papal legate...

“Lord, stamp eternity on my eyeballs.” - Jonathan Edwards

In addition to his view on Gnosticism, I’m asking if @Wrangler has issues with the “canonizers” too.

Since we’ve been through it before, the only question I have is whether or not @Wrangler goes along with your questioning of the canon of scripture and your enthusiasm for Gnosticism.

Romans 13 has it covered in the present evil age and the Messiah’s government has it covered in the age to come.

I’ve produced dozens of Christian sources. Review them and see for yourself.

Jesus and the apostles were killed by their enemies. They are the gold standard for promoting the gospel without following your teaching. The early church followed the way of Jesus and the apostles in response to persecution by their enemies. That’s what I’m for. That’s what you’re against.

That boat stunk and sunk. You’re perpetuating a behavior that impedes the spreading of the gospel.

Your “defenders” persecuted religious freedom -> killing Muslims, Jews, and Christians. ”A house divided against itself cannot stand.” - Jesus Bonus: ”United we stand, divided we fall“ - Motto of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, adopted in 1792 The reputation of Christianity was severely damaged...