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All English translations published prior to 1611* and many after. “It” is not referring to Jesus Christ. That would be absurd. @Riven do you understand this? * Wycliffe is the exception. His translation is from Latin, not from Greek.

I’m on my way to Lexington and won’t be home until late this afternoon. In my absence you can search my posts for the Hebrew words echad and elohim. I’ve probably written more about those two words than anything else on this forum. *** @Riven are you interested in that discussion? I can walk...

If the context requires it then the trinitarian translators of the Geneva Bible (not to mention the other translations which translate the prologue as they did) would have done so. The trinitarian translators of the Geneva Bible didn’t believe the creator is some impersonal force.

I’ve dealt with it hundreds of times. Anyone who cares to can search my posts and see for themselves. I haven’t dodged anything, artfully or otherwise. I don’t engage in debates. Among other things, I’m a teacher. I’m discussing my primitive Christian faith with anyone who will listen. I...

“You know why the disciples were no longer afraid of death? Because of the resurrection.” - Adrian Rogers

The deity of Jesus Christ is his Father @Riven.

“Pray before you read the Bible, while you read it, and after you read it.” -Joel Beeke @Riven this is a good general recommendation. I’d like to modify it ever so slightly for you: Pray before you read the Gospel of John, while you read the Gospel of John, and after you read the Gospel of...

I’ve discussed this with you before @Riven. You might recall me once saying to you that if you forget everything else that I’ve ever said to you, don’t forget this.

@Riven have you read the creed?

Please see my numerous posts and threads on the passage where I have used trinitarian scholarship to support my position. @Riven

There’s a better and more reliable way.

The Apostles’ Creed is a popular post-biblical creed. What do you think about it? https://www.crcna.org/welcome/beliefs/creeds/apostles-creed

Thank you. I’ve addressed it so many times and in so many threads that I see no need to address it again in this thread. However, if @Riven asks me to I will.

That’s right. “It” fits perfectly with the Jewish / Hebrew Bible background of John. John is intentionally taking his readers back to Genesis 1. An interesting point is that the theology of the translators - all of them, no matter which choice of pronouns they made - was trinitarian...

That’s an important point which you arrived at on your own. That’s another important point which you arrived at entirely on your own. How are you going to reconcile the differences in the two translations? Both were done by reputable trinitarian scholars. One group saw something in the...

That was a kind and commendable thing for you to do. That is where you went beyond letting him read and think it through for himself. You’re overlooking an import fact: I’m a primitive Christian. Primitive Christians aren’t Nicene Christians (i.e. trinitarians). As church history documents...