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  1. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    That was the accusation made by his enemies. He corrected them. It is you who is standing with them. Echad elohim isn’t a plural phrase. Every English language translation of the phrase renders it properly, correctly, as a singular phrase in the Bibles we have.
  2. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    No. I stand against them. Misrepresenting what the Hebrew phrase is when properly translated into English - which is what you have done - doesn’t help your case. It helps mine. The NIDNTT quote I posted is correct. I will use the trinitarian source against you.
  3. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    No. The echad elohim of Israel / the one God of Israel is the Messiah’s God. See again NIDNTT. What you said about the Hebrew phrase is what appalls me.
  4. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Telling people that the correct English translation of the Hebrew phrase echad elohim is “as one gods” is appalling. All English language Bibles translate the phrase correctly. The echad elohim of Israel is the “one God” of Israel. The Messiah isn’t pointing anyone to the “gods of Israel”. The...
  5. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    The trinitarian source doesn’t do that. That’s not true. English translations of the Hebrew are correct.
  6. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Scripture doesn’t need updating. NIDNTT is correct.
  7. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Post #340 isn’t false advertising. The quote from NIDNTT (a trinitarian source) is the documentation of who the one God is in scripture.
  8. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    I don’t have posting privileges in “Christians Only” forums.
  9. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    I’m not in your league. Having no interest in the monotheism of Israel is having no interest in the God of Israel.
  10. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    I just finished reading it. My box for todays 10 is checked.
  11. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    My response to what you’ve written is in post #340.
  12. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    In every Jewish group. That’s okay. You said it all when you said (in post # 350) “I do not care if my form of monotheism is the monotheism of Israel or not.”
  13. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    The videos I posted was in response to a comment made by a trinitarian member. He said that the Jews changed the scriptures, replacing the word echad with the word yachid. They didn’t. All of the videos were made by Jews who do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth, himself an observant Jew, is the...
  14. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    The history of Israel also contains good. The Old Testament is the Hebrew Bible. The Bible of Jewish monotheists. It contains the scriptures which Jesus and the apostles had access to. No. I posted that there were no Christians in Old Testament days. Unbelieving Jews are Israel. Believing...
  15. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    There were not. The Jews were not trinitarians. Moses the trinitarian is a fiction. Moses the Jewish monotheist is a fact.
  16. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Of course it does. It always has. Jewish monotheism is grounded in the history of Israel and the early church. He was stoned, beaten and hated by unbelieving Jews, not by believing Jews.
  17. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    Well done. Beginning with the New Testament is difficult because in doing so we lose the base that it sits on- the Hebrew Bible / Old Testament. Matthew gave us a quick refresher. I think it makes sense to continue our trial by reading Matthew 2 next, later today. It has 23 verses and we should...
  18. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    I’m not arguing with Paul. Like Jesus, his monotheism is the monotheism of Israel which you don’t care about.
  19. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    No. I’m alluding to trinitarian scholars who identify Jesus as the ideal, perfect, sinless, Israelite.