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One can only wonder what Christian newbies are thinking about if / when they read this thread. I’m going to exit the thread now. For what it’s worth, put me down as a no vote for a man only thread. Whatever you decide about it is fine with me. I don’t think it would be located in a forum I’m...

I’m tired. I’m reading in Matthew and wrote Matthew instead of John. I don’t know why you felt the need to comment on it but I applaud your exuberance.

All I’ve asked you to do is explain how the passage you quoted in Isaiah is related to the passages in John. I apparently asked too much of you. That’s on me.

Call the race for us then. What does the passage in Isaiah have to do with the passages in the OP from John?

That’s what I thought. (Context is king.)

Camel racing? What has that got to do with it?

Capitol city: Jerusalem.