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“Natural man’s sin is precisely this: He wants the benefits of God without God Himself.” - R.C. Sproul

Most people today believe they are emulating the early church in their theology. Most clergy are focusing their attention on “Christian living”, not on teaching church history. A very good friend of mine is a trinitarian pastor. We’ve discussed the matter a few times. He once told me that...

I’m a 1st century believer living in the 21st century. The Board administration / moderating team is willing now, and always has been, to recognize me as Christian. The only option the Administrator has offered for you (and others like you who insist on speaking here against trinitarian...

I understand your position; the trinitarians do too. It’s been beaten to death. What you stated is potentially going to provoke the argument which I explicitly stated in the OP is not the intention of the thread. (I’m not a trinitarian but your comment put me on the brink of doing what a...

If it’s true then it should be believed, no matter who says it. As I pointed out, the largest branch of unitarianism believes it is true. Everyone should know what the church which affirms the historical orthodox doctrine of the Trinity thinks about that and why it thinks what it does about...

Same here about myself. And yet I’m a Jewish monotheist, not a trinitarian. I commented to someone else a few days ago that most of what I know about theology - trinitarian and non-trinitarian - I learned from trinitarian scholars who believed and taught historical orthodox trinitarianism.

I’m neither Catholic nor Protestant. No one ever asks but, for the record, I not Eastern Orthodox. (I seldom come across them.) I’m a Jewish monotheist who believes Jesus of Nazareth (who is also a Jewish monotheist) is the Messiah, Son of the living God. That is not good enough in the eyes of...

Thank you. I don’t want to argue about it either. I know. Whether a person does or doesn’t, the subject of the thread is proper education about the Trinity.

Thank you for asking. First I’d like to preface my response with the following. The only monotheism I affirm is Jewish monotheism, and that is unitarian. That, in part, is why I’m registered here as “Other Faith” rather than “Christian” on a platform which officially endorses and affirms...

Someone asked me years ago if I hoped that my students would affirm historical orthodox trinitarianism after taking my classes on the subject. No. I hoped that my students who learned about historical orthodox trinitarianism would then decide for themselves whether to affirm it or reject it...

No. And why is that? Rejection of the institutional standard. I spoke with a trinitarian recently who insisted that even the Catholic Church rejects historical orthodox trinitarianism. It doesn’t get any more absurd than that. There can be no agreement in that case.

That’s right. Blow up the institutional statements. Set them on fire. Bury the ashes. The Trinity then becomes anything anyone wants it to be. “I’m a trinitarian! I believe in the Trinity! You should believe in the Trinity! But what you must never do is define the Trinity and insist on that...

I read an old thread on the forum recently which had received no replies in four years. The person who initiated the thread had posted some personal information and then asked if others thought he was a Christian based on the information supplied. I don’t know why no Christian responded, and I...

How can anyone believe in the Trinity if he or she doesn’t know and understand what the church which affirms it (Catholic, Protestant, Eastern Orthodox) teaches about it? How can anyone reject the Trinity if he or she doesn’t know and understand what the church which affirms it teaches about...

That should be done. It’s all a part of church history. The topic of this thread is educating people about the Trinity. The typical American / American Christian doesn’t know what the Catholic, Protestant and Eastern Orthodox churches say about the Trinity. It isn’t being taught to them in...