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  1. Matthias

    The happy thread

  2. Matthias

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Nicaea (325), Constantinople (381), Chalcedon (451). Those who dissented were expelled from the church. The value of your comment to me is that it reflects what the poll is telling us.
  3. Matthias

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Welcome to the forum. I see that you are registered “Agnostic”. I understand your position but your comment is the very thing that I wanted to avoid in this thread. Now a zealous trinitarian will be chomping at the bit to respond to it and, if one does (I’m hoping the trinitarians will...
  4. Matthias

    The happy thread was dead. Long live the happy thread!

    * I’m an environmental engineer and sometimes I had to work around a nuclear power plant. The last time I picked some sunflowers and brought them home to my wife she asked me where I got them, and made me change my clothes on the back porch. *
  5. Matthias

    The happy thread was dead. Long live the happy thread!

    * I wonder why this never caught on. *
  6. Matthias

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    From my X / Twitter “For you” feed today. https://x.com/protestia/status/1906745852212715885?s=61 Let me say at the outset that my intention with this thread is to discuss education. This thread was not created to discuss or debate the Trinity. I’ve been complaining for decades that the...
  7. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    “Elemental trinitarianism” isn’t “elementary trinitarianism”, nor is it “orthodox trinitarianism”. Trinitarian scholarship draws upon church history to show us how the church, beginning with “elemental trinitarianism”, arrived, several centuries later, at orthodoxy. The history of Christianity...
  8. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    For those who are interested in learning, what the Anglican scholar Harvey described is what the Catholic scholar Fortman termed “elemental trinitarianism”. This is basic church history and is indispensable for understanding the process by which the church came to be trinitarian.
  9. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Not only do you not know church history nor understand trinitarian orthodoxy, you don’t even exhibit awareness that this is my thread. I’m not going elsewhere. You going elsewhere will benefit everyone.
  10. Matthias

    The happy thread

  11. Matthias

    The happy thread was dead. Long live the happy thread!

    * This is even more shocking than the Godfather of Soul prank. *
  12. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    “I would not wish to deny that the seeds of a later Christology are present in the New Testament, nor that the subsequent doctrine of the divinity of Christ may have been a proper or even inevitable development. I am concerned only to show that there is no unambiguous evidence that the...
  13. Matthias

    The happy thread was dead. Long live the happy thread!

    * I said I was remorseful and apologized. Don’t forget to include that when you use me as an example! *
  14. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Even the largest branch of unitarianism agrees with those propositions. What this tells me is that you don’t have any understanding of, nor appreciation for, the history and complexity of the post-biblical development of trinitarian theology. It took the church several hundred years to move...
  15. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    I do. The real question is why don’t you?
  16. Matthias

    To the only God our Savior

    Your readers will never see it because it doesn’t exist.