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Nowhere. The Father, not the Messiah, is unambiguously stated to be the creator in these lines. That’s Jewish monotheism. You’ve already told me (and our readers) that you believe in creators (plural). Jewish monotheism doesn’t discard any scripture. Scripture was written by Jewish monotheists.

How quickly you’ve forgotten that I’ve said that Jesus is occasionally identified as elohim in scripture.

I didn’t ask you to say that he wasn’t. Even I have said that in some sense, he is. I asked if you would go on record saying that Jesus wasn’t and isn’t Yahweh. You refused. I want all of our readers to see that. That’s a classic logical fallacy question. Example: ”Are you still beating...

I’ve posted the opening line of both the Apostles’ Creed and the Nicene Creed. Those lines are consistent with Jewish monotheism.

Protestants writing to pagans, for pagans without it including Christian teaching strikes me as a money grab. I don’t think that’s what Shakespeare did. (But hey! I’ve already said that I had - and still sometimes have - trouble understanding him.) It’s not, and never has been, my intention to...

Nice. I agree with Dr. Witherington. Jesus wasn’t and isn’t Yahweh. Yahweh is the God and Father of Jesus. There is no God besides Yahweh. Everything else in scripture is idols. Jewish monotheism.

* He’s about to get an earful, of week-old buns. *

I have addressed it; multiple times in multiple threads. Will you go on record saying that Jesus wasn’t and isn’t Yahweh?

Something else peculiar about trinitarianism that readers ought to know. Trinitarians tend to equate the post-biblical creeds with scripture. I’ve seen this argument made by trinitarians on the forum lately. The post-biblical creeds aren’t scripture. They are interpretations of scripture...

@APAK I posted this short clip in another thread. I don’t know if you saw it or not and things are quickly buried in threads that are popular. It’s just a 33 second clip from a lecture given by Dr. Ben Witherington, III. He’s a trinitarian. He teaches at Asbury Theological Seminary, located in...

It’s my longstanding personal policy not to use private messages on any Internet discussion forums I participate in. Continue using what you have. I used them myself when I was a trinitarian.

I was giving a lecture one day at a trinitarian college in Kenya. During the lecture a student commented that Jewish monotheists are small in number compared to trinitarians. He was right. I’ve recently encountered on the forum the trinitarian argument that trinitarianism must be right because...

Mine is Rabbi Jesus. Yes.

The Messiah’s God is only one person. My God is only one person. Our God is the same one person. Trinitarianism offers us something that the Messiah himself doesn’t.

I’m not going to go through it again. This post of yours is as massive as the last one. I spent 45 minutes responding to it when it shouldn’t have taken more than 10 minutes. If you want a response from me you’re going to have to reduce the number of characters in your posts.

* If I had said that my nose would have grown ten feet long. I’m sure glad my wife hasn’t asked me. Long nose or confession. Either way, I’d be in the doghouse for sure and certain. *