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  1. Matthias

    Bar one exception

    You’re a complex man. You spoke in post #1 about your belief and you also retain your position that belief causes schizophrenia. Believing what you did in the old days - you shouldn’t believe what you did in the old days. Jesus will appear again physically. It’s only a matter of time.
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    The “Return” of Christ: What Does it Mean?

    I was referring to the respective tenets as the principles. I’m sorry that it wasn’t clear in my post.
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    The “Return” of Christ: What Does it Mean?

    My conclusion would be that the natural body of Jesus doesn’t play a prominent role in Baha’i theology. Agreed.* That’s an important point. Do Bahai’s then not believe that Jesus was literally, bodily, placed in the tomb? * With one exception: the destruction in the lake of fire; the...
  4. Matthias

    Apologetics about Substitutionary Atonement

    Otherwise the human person has no life in himself or herself.
  5. Matthias

    Apologetics about Substitutionary Atonement

    It takes both to be a living human person.
  6. Matthias

    Apologetics about Substitutionary Atonement

    Without a body there is no mind.
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    Apologetics about Substitutionary Atonement

    Breath of life, a living human person. No breath of life, a dead human person.
  8. Matthias

    Apologetics about Substitutionary Atonement

    The human person dies. The human person lives again.
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    Apologetics about Substitutionary Atonement

    Bodily resurrection is the biblical way, the only way, for a dead human person to become a living human person again.
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    Apologetics about Substitutionary Atonement

    God alone is inherently immortal. The human person is created mortal, not immortal. Immortality is a gift from God. Not every human person will receive the gift. The bodily resurrected who belong to Messiah will be clothed with immortality. The bodily resurrected who do not belong to Messiah...
  11. Matthias

    Apologetics about Substitutionary Atonement

    Human persons die. You’ve changed that to only human bodies die; human persons don’t die. There is no human person without a body. See the creation of Adam. The “real” person is the whole person.
  12. Matthias

    The “Return” of Christ: What Does it Mean?

    If Jesus of Nazareth wasn’t bodily resurrected from gravedom then no one ever will be.
  13. Matthias

    Apologetics about Substitutionary Atonement

    It is appointed once for every human person to die (Hebrews 9:27). Substitutionary atonement doesn’t alter that fact. Jesus died so that those who belong to him will not die a second time, in the lake of fire.
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    The “Return” of Christ: What Does it Mean?

    This main tenet of the Baha’i religion isn’t the tenet of primitive Christianity. They are irreconcilable and incompatible principles.
  15. Matthias

    The “Return” of Christ: What Does it Mean?

    The guarded tomb contained the natural body. It was there late on Friday. It was not there later in the morning on Sunday. @Pancho Frijoles what does Baha’i say concerning where the natural body placed in the tomb is? P.S. The sign of Jonah ”Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to...
  16. Matthias

    The happy thread

  17. Matthias

    The “Return” of Christ: What Does it Mean?

    “The world is so in love with lies that the truth feels like hate.” - Shane Pruitt https://x.com/shane_pruitt78/status/1805593632293941479?s=61 This pastor is expressing a sound biblical principle.
  18. Matthias

    QUOTE for the day

    “Often, the best sermon applications are not ‘do this,’ but ‘believe this.’” - Jeff Wiesner
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    The “Return” of Christ: What Does it Mean?

    “The return of Christ” - the words of the primitive Christian religion. ”The return of Christ” - the words of the Baha’i religion. The words are the same but the meaning is different. Jesus Christ himself is returning. - the primitive Christian message. Jesus Christ himself is not returning...
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    The “Return” of Christ: What Does it Mean?

    “It was the great English Baptist Charles Spurgeon who said, ‘The arch-enemy of truth has invited us to level our walls and take away our fenced cities.’ Beware of voices who would aim at lowering the bar on theological precision and confessional clarity.” - Josh Buice...