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Is the Bible word for “die“ the same as the Bible word for “live”? If the words are synonymous, how do we make good sense out of a passage like Romans 14:8? “for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord: therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s.” ”Live”...

What is the first Bible verse you memorized? For me it was John 3:16. Since I was raised KJVO, I’ll first quote it as I learned it as a child. ”For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (KJV)...

I watched the video this morning. What she read from the section of Wenham’s book concerning conditional immortality is pretty standard fare. What drew my attention and captivates my thought was the question she used in the title -> “Are we as fair as Wenham to positions with which we disagree?”...

“He is the only one who possesses immortality“ -> and so does all of mankind? And - as one person has informed me in this thread - so do worms?

What is the Bible word for death? Life and death aren’t synonyms; they’re antonyms. Yes. That’s what I’ve begun doing in this thread. I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking. If you’ll clarify your question I’ll try to answer it. In the meantime, what does a passage like Romans 6:23...

My favorite class, hands down, in college was taught by a trinitarian professor (Dr. John Roller) who believes in conditional immortality. I searched for and found a video he posted on YouTube. The professor documents the shift which occurred in the church - easily seen and traced in the...

“He is the only one who possesses immortality; he lives in unapproachable light; no human being has seen him, or can see him. To him be eternal honor and power, Amen!” (1 Timothy 6:17, NTFE)

“The wages paid by sin, you see, are death; but God’s free gift is the life of the age to come, in the Messiah, Jesus our Lord.” (Romans 6:23, NTFE)

Thanks. What I was getting at is that you believe (apparently) that all of mankind is innately immortal. I don’t. I believe in conditional immortality. For those who believe all of mankind is inherently immortal, and seeing in scripture that the wicked will be cast into the lake of fire from...

“Live slowly enough to be able to think deeply about God.” - J.I.Packer

God is a God of justice. The wicked don’t believe it. The righteous do. God will not be mocked. Like all criminals, they will receive the punishment which God has said he will impose on them - the second death in the lake of fire. The first death won’t be a refugee for the wicked. They didn’t...

@Titus do you believe God has promised the gift of immortality to the wicked?

The individuals will know that they haven’t escaped justice.

Once the fire and worm consumes, there is no more suffering. I believe that God will annihilate the wicked, not torture them for eternity.