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  1. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Does “in those days” not sound like an era to you?
  2. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Even Jews who, unlike yourself, have believed - from the 1st century up to the present day - that Jesus of Nazareth, himself a Jew, is the man messiah. Why then are they famous for their quarreling? A remnant.
  3. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Jesus is a Jew. He taught in the Temple and in Jewish synagogues. He was teaching Judaism to a Jewish audience. We’ve previously discussed the spirit of the law vs. the letter of the law. Paul didn’t throw the law overboard.
  4. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    So there are some Jews who believe Isaiah 53 is about the messiah. I’m glad to hear that. I’ve spoken with Jews who don’t. Judaism is fractured, just as Christianity is.
  5. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    If it was an actual event in the history of Judaism then the Jewish religious authorities took it very seriously. It is the handful, the exception, that I’m speaking about. Christianity was started by Jews, not non-Jews. The earliest Christian were Jews, not non-Jews. The NT describes the...
  6. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    As you know, not all Jews believe that to be the case. So we are able to agree in general then that the messiah will be a male Jewish person, not Israel.
  7. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    So would you say then that the accounts written in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are about an event in the history of Judaism that never happened? Do you believe Christianity began as a sect of Judaism?
  8. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    You don’t believe Isaiah 53 is speaking about the messiah. I’ve spoken with Jews who do, and I know that you’ve read the writings of Jews who did. It would be going too far to say that there have never been any Jews who believed Isaiah 53 is about the messiah. Setting Isaiah 53 aside for a...
  9. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Thanks. With all of the prophecies about the messiah contained in the Hebrew Bible, instant fulfillment doesn’t sound plausible. “In those days” sounds like a period of time.
  10. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    I was reading earlier today about the writings in Yalkut Shimoni.
  11. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    You’re familiar with the New Testament. As recorded in the NT, the subject of the messiah was a very big deal in the history of Judaism in the 1st century of the Common Era. If it is true that ”the whole messiah subject is not important, it is no big deal in Judaism”, why has that happened? Why...
  12. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    It is a big deal in Rabbinic literature. If what you say about it not being a big deal in Judaism is true, why has Judaism turned away from those rabbinical writings on the subject?
  13. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Is it your expectation that when the messiah comes he will instantly fulfill all messianic prophecies?
  14. Matthias

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    What about Rabbinic sources which say that the suffering servant in Isaiah 53 is the messiah?
  15. Matthias

    The happy thread

  16. Matthias

    QUOTE for the day

    “Son, I’ve been on top of that mountain and there ain't nothing there.” - Bobby Bowden
  17. Matthias

    FOR - YOU - WHO - CLAIM - YOUR BORN AGAIN

    “… we can safely say that all Old Testament saints were ‘born again’ …” https://versebyverseministry.org/bible-answers/can-we-say-old-testament-saints-were-born-again
  18. Matthias

    The happy thread

  19. Matthias

    The happy thread

  20. Matthias

    The happy thread