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There is no fatherless birth. God is the God and father of Jesus.

It doesn’t sound like you understood what I was saying. God spoke and Jesus was conceived in the womb of the virgin.

God supernaturally caused the virgin to conceive, just as it is described in the birth narratives (Matthew 1 and Luke 1).

I don’t think so. There are many resources available addressing Jewish objections to the virgin birth. For example: https://www.totheends.com/eligible.htm You’ve decided against the miraculous begetting of the Messiah. In my view, you’ve decided against what Gabriel told Mary (Luke 1:35).

https://medium.com/interfaith-now/isaiah-53-did-judaism-always-consider-israel-the-suffering-servant-135fbfef2188 Table 1 in the linked article summarizes historical Jewish messianic and non-messianic interpretation of Isaiah 53.

I don’t think it will satisfy you but for those who are interested in wrestling with this difficult passage: https://biblehub.com/commentaries/matthew/2-23.htm Thank you. This goes a long way in helping me understand why you say the messiah “is really not an important subject”. It presents a...

So then it seems that symbolism isn’t something you find in your study of scripture.

… This is an important point in our conversation. The Jews who wrote the NT believed there are significantly more “genuine messianic prophecies” than you do. Since there are so few of them in your faith tradition, would you list all those which you believe are for us? There must be some...

I brought up typology because the Jewish NT writers employ it in their understanding and explanation of OT prophecies concerning the messiah. Regardless, do you believe in typology?

Thanks. That sounds awfully like universalism to me. A human person, but surely one greater than the persons you identified by name. That’s a sticking point for me. Which the NT Jewish believers in Jesus were. Another sticking point for me. What I think is that the Jewish NT writers...

Do you believe in typology?

Cutting to the chase here, this is your position as an unbelieving Jew vs. the position of the NT believing Jews. Right?

You reject the thinking of those Jews. They, in turn, reject your thinking. It’s as certain to happen as the sun rising in the morning. I think you surely at least believe that. I believe it will be done by the Jewish man whom the NT asserts it will be done, when he returns. Until then, the...