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  1. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    I think I do but I’m not happy about it. Shouldn’t you look at and be aware of the trinitarian arguments against your position? I’ve looked at and am aware of unitarian arguments (as well as binitarian and trinitarian, to say nothing of the arguments of other groups) against mine. Jesus...
  2. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    (1) What do you believe; and (2) Why do you believe it. (1) I believe Jewish unitary monotheism; and (2) I believe it because Jesus is a Jewish unitary monotheist.
  3. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    There’s nothing wrong with that. I think you should. My first question was concerning balance. I think readers should be made aware that not all trinitarians are in full agreement with your position. My second question was asking if you understand the reasons why the trinitarians who disagree...
  4. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    The Church I was raised in told me who my God is: the Trinity. (Nicaea) The Messiah I follow tells me in scripture who his God and my God is: the Father alone. (Jerusalem)
  5. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    How many people in the Bible ever said, “My God is the Trinity“? 0.
  6. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Just listen to Jesus. His God isn’t the Trinity and there is no God besides his God.
  7. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Have you never noticed that in John 3:16 you are in unitarian water? Who is the God who loved the world in that passage? The God and Father of the Messiah, not the Trinity.
  8. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Thanks for posting the trinitarian commentary @RLT63. Will you also be posting the trinitarian commentary that disagrees with your position? Do you understand why the trinitarian commentary which disagrees with your position disagrees with your position?
  9. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Jesus is a man attested by God. (Jerusalem) Jesus is a God-man attested by God. (Nicaea)
  10. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Jesus is the man, the Messiah, the Son of God. He was begotten by God and conceived by a virgin. He is a priest. He is a prophet. He is a king. He died. He was resurrected from the dead. He is sitting at the right hand of God. He has a God, Yahweh, the God of Israel. Simple. Jerusalem. Jesus is...
  11. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    “Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.” (Proverbs 22:6) Written by King Solomon. Unitarian. I wasn’t trained up as a child to be unitarian. I was trained up as a child to be trinitarian. A day came when I had to ask myself a question: Was I...
  12. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Jewish monotheism - the unitary monotheism held not only by Jesus of Nazareth but also by the apostles and the first Christians. The theology of the church changed as the balance in the church changed from Jewish to Gentile. How do we know that happened? By reading Church history. I read an...
  13. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    While I’ve got Raymond E. Brown at my fingertips @RLT63 : Texts where Jesus is clearly called God 1. Hebrews 1:8-9 2. John 1:1 3. John 20:28 fwiw, I agree with Brown on Hebrews 1:8-9 and John 20:28. Neither of them causes any difficulty at all for Jewish unitary monotheism.
  14. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Same problem. Raymond Brown - “dubious” A. Passages with textual variants 1. Galatians 2:20 2. Acts 20:28 3. John 1:18 B. Passages where obscurity arises from syntax 1. Colossians 2:2 2. 2 Thessalonians 1:12 3. Titus 2:13 4. 1 John 5:20 5. Romans 9:5 6. 2 Peter 1:1
  15. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    The Bible taught me that the one God (the God of Israel / the God of Jerusalem) is the God and Father of Jesus. The church taught me that the one God is the Trinity. Church history taught me that the church transitioned from unitarianism to trinitarianism. Dr. Brown asked me to consider...
  16. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    That’s true. English translations prepared from Hebrew and Greek and published prior to 1611 agree with him.
  17. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    See Moulton-Howard-Turner, Grammar, Vol. III for the trinitarian argument against the Rule (“Unfortunately, at this period of Greek we cannot be sure…”) you’re offering for my consideration. Raymond Brown (my favorite Roman Catholic scholar) lists the passages in a section of his book Jesus God...
  18. Matthias

    GOD’S Plan Was With Perfect Detail – Deuteronomy 21;22-23, Galatians 3:13

    “1. In the beginn was the worde and the worde was with God: and the worde was God. 2. The same was in the beginnynge with God. 3. All thinges were made by it and with out it was made nothinge that was made. 4. In it was lyfe and the lyfe was ye lyght of men 5. and the lyght shyneth in the...
  19. Matthias

    JESUS Spake With The Authority of GOD and They Didn’t Want To Hear It ! Matthew 7;28-29, Luke 20;19-20

    The bat kol - “This is my chosen Son; listen to him!“ (Luke 9:35).
  20. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    That's probably true.