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  1. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    “At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian … It was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages, as reflected in the New Testament and other early Christian writings.” (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, editor James Hastings, Vol 12, p. 461) Which trinitarian source is correct? Is...
  2. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    “The New Testament gives no inkling of the teaching of Chalcedon. That council not only reformulated in other language the New Testament data about Jesus’ constitution, but also reconceptualized it in the light of the current Greek philosophical thinking. And that reconceptualization and...
  3. Matthias

    The Invisible God

    Jesus is the human face of the invisible God.
  4. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Since no one is defending the Trinity until the 4th century, should we believe in the Trinity? [That’s a far more complex question to answer than was Tertullian a trinitarian.] Trinitarians. Yes. Non-trinitarians. No. But why?
  5. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Does anyone in the history of the Church defend the Trinity? Absolutely. Where do we first come across them? In the 4th century. Readers should prove it for themselves. Easily done, by reading the early Church Fathers.
  6. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Tertullian. A trinitarian? ”Hasty conclusions cannot be drawn from usage, for [Tertullian] does not apply the words [which were later applied to Trinitarianism] to Trinitarian theology.” (Michael O’Carrol, Trinitas: A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity, p. 208) A dilemma for the...
  7. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    The NET is disliked by it’s critics, especially critics of the notes, because it gives a balanced approach which is often considered weak on the issue of the deity of Christ’s person. Either yesterday or today - days blend together when you’re retired - I referred readers to the NET commentary...
  8. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    I never memorized a sermon before delivering it; just the two or three main points I intended to expound on - and often I didn’t get to them all because of the style of preaching I used. Dialogue Preaching encourages the audience to interrupt the preacher with their questions and comments.
  9. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    A great many trinitarians dislike the commentary / notes in NET, and also criticize the translation. Do you know why that is? (If I remember correctly, the Berean Patriot wasn’t impressed with the NET. I am.)
  10. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    “There was a time when the Son did not exist” - Tertullian Why didn’t your source tell us that @RLT63?
  11. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    I never preached a sermon using notes, and that drove my preaching class professors up the wall. (I was required to have notes and submit a copy of them to the professors before I gave the sermons in class. I went to the podium and delivered the sermons without them. I was the only one who did.)...
  12. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    One point made in the article. This really captures my attention, it won’t capture the attention of most. I’ve been reading Tertullian for the past three months. At this time, I’ve read either 20 or 21 of his writings, including Against Praxeas - the specific work identified by your author...
  13. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    If I wanted the post to be read and the information considered - I presume that you do - I would select a single point and quote it, providing a link to the article. I might add a couple of sentences of my own - my commentary - on the point which I quoted. Rinse and repeat (for other points in...
  14. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Preaching class: limit your sermon to 3 points and no more than 30 minutes, max. (Less is better.) Mix in stories to keep the attention of the audience. Discussion forum: ditch the sermon. My preaching method: Dialogue preaching (my professors hated the method; my congregation(s) loved it.)
  15. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    KISS - Keep It Simple Saints (a lesson stressed by one of my preaching class professors.) I don’t deliver sermons on discussion forums. Brilliant or not, no one would read them.
  16. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Sure. I wouldn’t have mentioned it if I didn’t. It’s simple. Every preaching class I’ve taken (and I had to take more of them than I wanted to in order to graduate) harps on it: Information overload. (I always got marked down for it on sermons graded by the professors.) You’re trying to convey...
  17. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    The mistake is a common one and unrelated to theology. The assistance I was offering was also generic in nature. I won’t pursue that any further. He’s obviously happy with the approach and I can sleep with a clear conscience, knowing that I offered to help. As for the trinitarian content...
  18. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    I’ve already told you that I disagree with that kind of thinking, so it should be obvious to you that I’m talking about something else. You’re missing something simple in your approach. You’re making a common mistake; a mistake that isn’t bound by a person’s theological beliefs.
  19. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    I didn’t ask you if you saw anything wrong with the article. I asked you if you understood why the approach you’re taking isn’t effective.
  20. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    That’s fine. Given what you said concerning people whose minds were made up, I deduced that you were probably posting with an eye toward those whose minds were not made up. You should know why your approach isn’t effective with people like me who are historically grounded. Do you understand...