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  1. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    You made an important point: The doctrine of the Trinity is opposed to the plain teaching of scripture.
  2. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    An invitation to stop teaching the doctrine of the Trinity. I love irony.
  3. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I wanted to comment on this portion of your post separately. Your comment is an example of why my trinitarian and non-trinitarian colleagues don’t post on discussion forums and believe them to be “lost causes” and “a waste of their time”. They aren’t willing to endure the reviling of the...
  4. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Mission accomplished. The doctrine of the Trinity teaches that Jesus is not a human person. Therefore, it is a false doctrine. In believing that Jesus is in fact a human person, JAT has already rejected the doctrine but has done so without realizing it.
  5. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    My advanced education was led by skilled trinitarians who were properly trained and technically equipped to do the job.
  6. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    If you were knowledgeable about the doctrine of the Trinity you would have recognized that I was inviting JAT to investigate and then reject the doctrine of the Trinity. It’s called the doctrine of the Trinity. It’s what the Church has defined as orthodoxy since the 4th century.
  7. Matthias

    Everyone Who Argues Against the Deity of Jesus

    I’ve been posting on Christian forums since the mid to late ‘90s. People like me don’t typically become involved in them. My trinitarian and non-trinitarian colleagues tell me, from the comfortable confines of their ivory towers, that these forums are “a lost cause” and “a waste of our time.” I...
  8. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    That’s not the doctrine of the Trinity (i.e. your phrase “Classic Trinity”) and we both know it.
  9. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Over and over you demonstrate my point. The trinitarian clergy is not teaching the doctrine of the Trinity. *** Here’s a simple challenge to JAT : Let’s agree that Jesus is a human person and ANY doctrine which says that he is not a human person is a false doctrine.
  10. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    No. It is the intellectual property of trinitarianism. The trinitarian clergy isn’t using it. You should be hearing it from them, not from me. What is the doctrine of the Trinity to you? An unknown doctrine.
  11. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    And trinitarians aren’t but should be. The doctrine of the Trinity isn’t in scripture. Mostly, it is just something college professors are talking about. The doctrine of the Trinity isn’t taught in most trinitarian churches. The trinitarian clergy isn’t doing the job. To find it, we have to...
  12. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    It’s not my rule. It’s the rule of the doctrine of the Trinity.
  13. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Of course you don’t. I’ve been writing about trinitarians who do share my concern about it. It doesn’t cause me any difficulty at all because I’ve been formally educated in regard to the doctrine of the Trinity. You’re playing at it.
  14. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    You know the Bible presents Jesus as a human person. We should know that trinitarian theology presents Jesus as a divine person who cannot be a human person. I’ve been doing this for a long time. In my personal experience - in other words, anecdotally speaking - I’ve been hard pressed to find...
  15. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    “The more complex, the higher the probability it is God.” - an echo from a long ago conversation with a trinitarian (whose name I don’t recall) who argued that God cannot be comprehended.
  16. Matthias

    Everyone Who Argues Against the Deity of Jesus

    One of the most unique experiences I’ve had on forums was being permanently banned after making only one post. The post was in an “Introduce Yourself” section of the forum. I said hello, my name is, and I’m a Jewish monotheist, looking forward to speaking with you. That’s it. That was the...
  17. Matthias

    Everyone Who Argues Against the Deity of Jesus

    I was on a forum one time where the rule - standard on many forums - was no one was allowed to say anything negative about the Trinity. I didn’t say anything - good, bad, or indifferent - about the Trinity. I only spoke about the Messiah’s God. I was soon permanently banned. (I think I made...
  18. Matthias

    Everyone Who Argues Against the Deity of Jesus

    The longest time I’ve ever spent on one online discussion forum was almost ten years. The owner of the forum was himself agnostic; he just liked to listen to people talk about theology. He told me that I was one of his favorite members on the forum. The forum, he explained, hadn’t been doing...
  19. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I’ve heard them say that Jesus had to be God because a man couldn’t do what scripture says Jesus did. I’m not trying to win an argument - have a debate - with them. I want my theology / position to be seen side by side with theirs. Their theology / their position is complex. I want readers to...
  20. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    In the Bible Jesus is a human person. In trinitarian theology, Jesus is not a human person. He cannot be a human person in trinitarian theology. (See post #2732.) There’s the disconnect. Trinitarian theology.