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  1. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    I know you do. I think John believed what Jesus, the Messiah, the Son of God believed / believes - there is only one God, theirs.
  2. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    “A person who doesn’t know history is [a person] easily misled.” - Mr. Fanning, my 9th Grade History teacher I thought then, and still think now, that he was right. Was he? Does it matter?
  3. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Did Christians invent the Trinity? The OP says no. The source of the Trinity, we were asked to believe, is Judaism, not Christianity. The Rabbis were trinitarians. The Rabbis were trinitarians? Only one trinitarian stepped forward to point out the absurdity. Why didn’t others? Does it...
  4. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    The experiment was, by design, subtle. Not to repeat the experiment but to make my intentional mistranslation less subtle and more visible: “And they all said, ‘Are you the second person of the Trinity, then?’ And he said to them, ‘Yes, I am.’” (Luke 22:70, IMV - Intentionally Mistranslated...
  5. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    “Does it matter?” That’s what I asked myself once I became aware that I believed things which no one living in biblical times believed. I eventually decided that it does. The Church helped me make that decision. I ask others the question now - 4 decades after asking and answering the question...
  6. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Jesus isn’t called “God the Son” in scripture. He is called the Son of God in scripture. You call him God the Son, don’t you? You speak about him in a way which scripture doesn’t. You speak about him in the way that binitarianism and trinitarianism speaks about him. When I was a trinitarian...
  7. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Is that why you missed it? Do you think that’s why other trinitarians miss it?
  8. Matthias

    These three are one

    Also in theology.
  9. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Trinitarians almost always do. The question is why do they “totally” miss it?
  10. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Why did you miss God the Son? I can tell you why I missed it when I was a trinitarian.
  11. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    It is post #123.
  12. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    It was a side point. Why didn’t you see the first one? (The point of my experiment is that a trinitarian wouldn’t.) You’re right. Why isn’t there a verse that says “God the Son”?
  13. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    You should have objected because I intentionally mistranslated the Greek. The verse doesn’t say “God the Son”. The verse does say “I am”. In my mistranslation, I have the Jews in the Council asking a question which they didn’t ask and, even worse, Jesus saying that he is what they didn’t ask...
  14. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Son of God or God the Son. Does it matter? “A wreath strewn with sulfur was placed on his head. When the faggots were ignited, a piercing cry of horror broke from him. ‘Mercy, mercy!’ he cried. For more than half an hour the horrible agony continued, for the pyre had been made of half-green...
  15. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    Agreement with some doesn’t require agreement with all.
  16. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    You posted an article that discussed “readable” but “not worth reading” translations. The author of that article made a good point.
  17. Matthias

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Yes to both. And in so-doing they wound up far away from where the Church began. What have the JW’s said in response?
  18. Matthias

    Did Christians invent the Trinity-2

    No objections having been heard, the experiment is concluded. Survey of Bible Gateway says - “God the Son” = 0. Luke 22:70 - Bible Gateway The mystery rendering I provided was an intentional mistranslation. Trinitarian readers should have spotted it and protested loudly, but they didn’t. I...
  19. Matthias

    What is Heresy?

    “What is a heretic? The Greek word from which the English terms ‘heresy’ and ‘heretic’ are derived simply means an ‘act of choice’ or an ‘attachment.’ For a time, hairesis merely meant ‘party’ or ‘sect’ (from the Latin verb ‘to cut’) and did not imply any disparagement. At an early date in the...