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The Church has influenced the state and the result is a just (at times) and an unjust (at times) state. Most of my supervisors in government service were Christian. I find it necessary to add, since you believe only Roman Catholics are Christian, that I had both Catholic and Protestant...

No. I wasn’t then and I’m not now. They could cause offense. They could turn off. They could shut down. They could end conversation. They could end friendship. It’s because of that potential that I don’t use them in conversation. We’ve known one another on the Internet for several years now...

Our conversation in this thread began with your inquiry to me. I appreciated the question then and still appreciate it now. You continued in that initial inquiry, Your hope has been realized, at least in part. Through our conversation I’ve given “that idea” reconsideration. You helped me to...

Thanks. Our respective understandings of resurrection do appear to be different. Dr. Cullmann writes about what I believe. “Only he who apprehends with the first Christians the horror of death, who takes death seriously as death, can comprehend the Easter exultation of the primitive Christian...

That doesn’t fit with resurrection, does it?

You’re a Southern California man. Are you familiar with Herbert W. Armstrong and his son, Garner Ted Armstrong? The Worldwide Church of God? Pasadena, California. They taught that there are two Gods in the God family. They further taught that the destiny of men was to become Gods in the God family.

I just asked a question. I wasn’t insinuating anything. You actually sound like Plato to me. I still haven’t grasped what you think mortal man will become. I asked if you thought mortal man would become an ethereal spirit person. All I’m certain of is that you don’t believe mortal man will...

This sounds similar to a summary Dr. Cullmann gives of Plato. “Our body is only an outer garment which, as long as we live, prevents our soul from moving feeling and from living in conformity to its proper eternal essence. It imposes upon the soul a law which is not appropriate to it. The soul...

Are you saying that mortal man will cease being mortal man and will become immortal God?

“It rests on a misconception of the New Testament mode of speech and conception if we immediately infer that the declaration of Jesus, that he had glory with the Father before the world was created is simply and necessarily identical in meaning with the thought that he himself preexisted …...

Scripture at the time of the founding of the Church - by a Jew - was the Hebrew Bible.

We live in a country where there is separation of Church and state. Nevertheless, do you think the Church does or doesn’t influence the state?

Neo or Original?

Simple truth. Yahweh is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Like Father, like Son.

Turnabout is fair play. Christian women, never date a heathen man.

It’s a great recommendation and one that I’ve acted on for the past 40 years or so. I make the same recommendation to all readers. Read widely. Read deeply. Read thoughtfully. Read critically. I call them “fluff” writers. I don’t enjoy reading them, but I do from time to time because that’s...

You have a closed mind and you don’t think the way those who wrote scripture thought. You think the way the Church centuries later thought. I recommend the Geneva Bible - the premier English language Bible of the Protestant Reformation - to you.

Brown (and other trinitarian scholars) will do it for me.

Brown was a trinitarian and regarded as one of the best scholars trinitarianism has ever produced. He agreed with what you just said. Read his writings. He’s trinitarian to the core. I don’t agree with your conclusion. Because it doesn’t agree with what I believe? No. Because it doesn’t agree...