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I have it in my personal library. It’s with forty-five plus unopened boxes of theology books that have been in storage since 2016. It’s enough to make a grown man cry. “What indeed has Athens to do with Jerusalem?” - Tertullian (beat me to it by a few centuries)

The pagan Greek philosophers were viewed by some Church Fathers as “proto-Christians”. That brings to mind those who try to persuade Jews that Rabbinical Judaism teaches trinitarianism. Marketing quicksand as solid ground to those who will not perform due diligence is taking advantage of the...

Someone’s dog has fleas.

Revelation predates the Catholic Church. My friend @theefaith - who believes Jesus himself was a Roman Catholic - would not agree.

I was briefly introduced to Socrates in High School and met him again later in College. “The unexamined life isn’t worth living.” -Socrates I’m not fond of Socrates, but many of the Early Church Fathers were; that’s something to think about. “The unexamined doctrine isn’t worth living.”...

All of those views have been held at various times in the Church. Just like everything else, we can track them waxing and waning by reading Church history - a history of Christian thought. Like you, I’m a futurist. * I had a trinitarian professor who impressed upon his students the idea - as...

As an environmental engineer, I often found myself working in unpleasant circumstances. I was sent to handle the worst of the worst. I was properly equipped and those who sent me were confident that I could and would do the job when others who could wouldn’t. A supervisor called me his...

The world is a cesspool, and it is the mission field for Christian evangelism. Let your light shine in the world.

Misery loves company. If someone in misery reaches out to us for help and we turn away from them, that’s something I would feel guilty about. If someone in misery reaches out to us in order to make us miserable, I would decline the invitation.

I feel bad that you feel guilty. I don’t see anything in what you’ve written that should cause you to feel guilty. I’d like for you to consider this thought: Self-inflicted wounds are more painful for me than are wounds inflicted on me by others. I don’t know if that will resonate with you or...

There was a time in Church history when it mattered. Any deviation from orthodoxy would have a placed a Christian in peril, even to the point of being persecuted, tormented, tortured and killed. It doesn’t matter any more, at least not to that extent. I appreciate that. Heterodoxy is now...

Any time and every time I meet any one who tells me he or she is a Christian, my working assumption is that the person has read the Bible. I maintain that posture unless or until the person himself or herself tells me that they haven’t. I’ve met many Christians who have never read the Bible from...

I recently posted this in another thread. I think it fits well - in fact, better - in this thread. I’ve modified it, slightly. A favorite book of mine is Immortality of the Soul or Resurrection of the Dead?: The Witness of The New Testament, written by Oscar Cullmann (a trinitarian, if it...

I think you already know, or can surmise, what I think about that. They were resurrection men, not immortal soul “go immediately to heaven when you die” men. The Church has held both views in it’s history. The position you hold is the majority view now. It wasn’t always that way.

“Primitive Christianity” is a term scholars often use when speaking about the early Christian Church, or about the early Christians; particularly in the first three centuries of Christian history. Christian thinking has evolved over the centuries. You may have seen me recommend a book, written...

“Have you ever read the Bible? It might pay you to read it before questioning it.” In conversation with someone who self-identifies as a Christian, this is a dialogue killer. What would “you” - the Christian reader - think if I said this to “you”? Would it make “you” happy? Would it make “you”...

I call out translators for bias. Here’s an example of translator bias using translations which you believe most accurately reflects what Paul is saying in Colossians 1:16 - “For by him were all things created …” (ESV) Notice, the trinitarian translators didn’t capitalize the “h” in “him”. “For...

I’m planning on posting more on the relationship between the Epistle and the Gospel. I’ll get around to it one of these days. No one even bothered to comment on my contribution. That’s fine. Anyone who knows me well - or anyone who doesn’t know me well but has spent an extended period of time...

I was an AFL guy back in the 60’s. George Blanda (played football at the University of Kentucky) drew my attention to the Oakland Raiders. I later became a Cincinnati Bengals fan. After moving to Atlanta, I became an Atlanta Falcons fan. After the NFL went woke, I stopped watching the NFL. When...

Some days I refer to this area of the forums in conversation with non-members of Christianity Board as “the dungeon;” other days I refer to it as “the basement” or “the cellar”. “Unorthodox” is a good choice of words. How many trinitarians do we encounter - on this and other online discussion...