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“Today the clarity and necessity of Chalcedon, if not refuted or disproved, has been widely forgotten and ignored. Christianity took four centuries to formulate its witness to the deity and humanity of Christ in the context of the one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in such a way that it...

”It is impossible to document what we now call orthodoxy in the first two centuries of Christianity; heresy often appears more prominently, so much so that orthodoxy looks like a reaction to it. But we can document orthodoxy for all the centuries since then - in other words, for close to...

Thanks. I understand what it sounds like on the surface. A closer reading of them may cause you to think otherwise about it. I’m discussing that in another thread this evening in regard to Tertullian. I would love to have you join me there.

I think so. The post-biblical development / formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity isn’t the smooth ride many think it was. That it was eventually settled (in the 4th century) is beyond dispute. That it was there in the 1st and 2nd century is historically untenable, as Dr. Harold O.J. Brown...

A Catholic friend I made on the forums got me interested in reading Tertullian again. I’ve read or re-read 11 of his works now. I’m taking a short break from Tertullian to read another book. (The Blue Parakeet: Rethinking How You Read the Bible, by Scot McKnight, a 21st century trinitarian...

How many beings is the Trinity? Any trinitarian worth his salt - that is, in agreement with the doctrine of the Trinity - knows the Trinity is one being. Tertullian? No. “Now, from this one passage of the epistle of the inspired apostle, we have been already able to show that the Father and...

I just finished re-reading Against Praxeas a couple of weeks ago. He believed in a Trinity but his concept is incompatible with that of later orthodox trinitarianism. For example, “The Father is not the same as the Son, since they differ one from the other in the mode of their being. For the...

I love Catholics; married one. One of the best decisions I ever made. 40th anniversary next year.

If you’re ever in Lexington, KY …

lol! I guess I’ve got a little more left in the trivia tank than you caused me to think I had. :) Look out Two Keys Tavern! Matthias is back in the game! (Looking for a partner though. Who doesn’t need backup in these things?)

Elton John? I thought it was Billy Joel. I guess I wouldn’t do well on Trivia Night at Two Keys Tavern. (I’m more of a ‘60’s and 70’s guy.)

I don’t know about her but I do. You don’t have to talk to me. Just keep talking. I’m listening.

I have areas of agreement with the JWs and areas of disagreement with them. The same is the case with trinitarians, binitarians and unitarians. I can find areas of agreement (and disagreement) with all of them. I don’t downplay or minimize the significance of the areas of disagreement, but...

I welcome it. I want to know not only what people believe but why they believe it. I may or may not agree with it. I may or may not be persuaded by it. I may or may not change my mind. A knock at our door is an opportunity afforded to us. We have a responsibility to answer. We have no control...

Amen.

Ufumu Wa Mulungu On my first trip to Africa (I’ve been twice) I took my workhorse translation of the Bible (NASB). At my first lecture when someone in the audience asked me a question that I was unprepared for, and it took me totally by surprise: “Why do you lecture from a propaganda Bible?”...

What? When someone asks you a question do you think you are being indoctrinated?

I’m glad you’re here. Whether we agree or not, on any subject, you cause me to think and rethink. You’ve done me no harm. You’ve done me a good service. A man like that is a man I want to shake hands with and tell him, thank you.

@RLT63 should be delighted that people are seeking him out and asking him questions. He’s center stage and has the floor. What a great opportunity that affords him!

Is there a reason that Jesus would be like God?