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  1. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    I appreciate your response. It seems to me from what you’ve written that we aren’t understanding one another. I was raised trinitarian. Some of what you say is what I was taught and what I in turn taught as a theology professor. Some of what you say isn’t. That’s fine; all I’m interested in is...
  2. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    I’m sorry if I’ve misunderstood you. I thought we had agreed that Jesus was a human person. Apparently we didn’t. I’ll offer a clarification: Me - Jesus was a human person. You - Jesus was not a human person. Trinitarianism - Jesus was not a human person. (Please see the trinitarian sources I...
  3. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Thanks, but my question wasn’t concerning separation from his body; my question: Was Jesus separated from God? It may be a silly question, but I would be an extremely wealthy man if I had a $1 for every time I’ve heard someone say over the past 50+ years that “God died for our sins.” I take...
  4. Matthias

    1 John 5:20

    “A pupil is not above his teacher; but everyone, after he has been fully trained, will be like his teacher.” (Luke 6:40) John is in agreement with Jesus (John 17:3) concerning the identity of the one true God.
  5. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    I’ve been where you are. I’ve seen what you see. I’ve seen something better in Jesus.
  6. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    That’s a lot to respond to. You know that Jesus identified the Father as his God. His theology is Jewish unitary monotheism. You know that his God is the God of Israel. It couldn’t be otherwise - there is no God besides the God of Israel. You know that the God of Israel himself doesn’t have a...
  7. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Connect the dots properly and a different picture emerges.
  8. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    I agree. The God of Israel is the God and Father of Jesus. When Jesus spoke about his God he spoke about one person. A person whose God is one person, the Father, isn’t a trinitarian. Such a person is a unitarian.
  9. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Let’s talk about your second statement. Who did Jesus identify as his God when he walked the earth 2,000 years ago?
  10. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Jesus Christ himself has a God.
  11. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Let me begin by saying that God himself doesn’t have a God; he is God. That should be something we can agree on. Jesus spoke about his God. That should also be something we can agree on. “God” can be understood in a primary sense or in a secondary sense. In other words, a person may be...
  12. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    If, for example, a person is a trinitarian then his or her theology is trinitarian and his or her God is the Trinity. Do you think Jesus is a trinitarian? If so, his theology is trinitarian. Do you think his God is the Trinity?
  13. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    The topic is the nature of Jesus Christ.
  14. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    I don’t think so.
  15. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Thanks. Tell me about Jesus. What do you think his theology is? I don’t think his theology is the theology of Arius. Do you? I don’t think his theology is the theology of Sabellius. Do you? I don’t think his theology is the theology of binitarianism. Do you? I don’t think his theology is...
  16. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Why do you think the trinitarians sources I quoted say it?
  17. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Off topic.
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    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Off topic.
  19. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    Off topic.
  20. Matthias

    The Nature of Jesus Christ

    No.