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If you are born again, you will not endorse doctrine says that all you need is one time confession to be saved. It is doctrine of demon, friend. You need to give respect What He deserves. His word is so powerful that by obeying His teachings you will inherit eternal life, brother. blessings.

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Everyone, Do you know that OSAS stems from Calvinism? Those saved ones are elect, according to Calvinists. and they are elected by God.

If Christians pay attention to what Jesus has to say, there is not going to any confusion nor chaos. Jesus is the center and Teacher of salvation, after all. Jesus is the Lord, everyone.

Excuse me for butting in but neither of you are budging. No one is listening to their opposes. How many pages accumulated so far? And it will not be come to the end at this rate. I don't see the point of this thread.

this thread is about whether non-trins are His followers or not. blessings.

It is clear claiming to be saved is boasting since Jesus is the authority to claim who will be saved or not. And I just showed you the verse stating judgment comes to His people's household.

ewq, This is what the scripture says: It says the judgment begin with household of God: No one is exempt. Even His people are subject to judgment.

so you don't accept Jesus' Lordship? Do you refuse to accept Him as the Lord of His followers?

It is boasting because they are usurping Jesus' authority. Jesus is the one who judges who will be saved or not, not anyone else even ourselves. Not everyone who says to Him Lord, Lord will not inherit God's kingdom. You never know Jesus might say "I never knew you". So we better humble...

It is boast because we are not the judge of who is saved or not. In fact, it is future tense not present whether we will be saved or not. "For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." It is future tense, friend.

Jesus says we know them by their fruit. I am talking about the fruit. I discern by the fruit we produce.

Only God knows. In the mean time, we better prepare for it by taking heed of His teachings.

We can claim all we like, but we all will be judged according what we have done. This is Jesus' word, not mine.

I don't claim to be saved. I am working toward it. Claiming to be saved is boasting.

Good example of OSAS is that most trinity believers believe they are saved. This is example of usurping Jesus' authority. Jesus is the Judge who will be saved or not. Jesus says we will be judged according to what we have done, not according to our own doctrines.

I am talking about general. Jesus spoke in general terms. Not even one non-trin church teach OSAS, whereas most trin churches do.

In my experience, non-trins strive to be godly and faithful to Jesus' teachings whereas trin churches do not honor Jesus' word by the doctrine of OSAS. OSAS is Trinitarian doctrine, not non-trin's. OSAS is ungrateful doctrine against Jesus' word. I am talking about fruit of our faith because...

' Fruit is action not man-made doctrine. You see, we can give lip service to Jesus by saying He is God, yet if our actions are not godly we are only mocking God and Jesus.

Actually, my point of this thread is about whether non-trins are Jesus' follower or not. Trinitarians making up their own qualification of salvation. Jesus is the Judge of His followers, not anyone or any organization. Jesus says we know them by their fruit. He did not say we know them by...