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[Jack]

Hi Jack,

As we know, being LGBTQIA+ is not inherently sinful I discuss this on my site here: https://jesus-saves-all.com/LGBTQ.htm

God bless

You're LYING to yourself and to LGBT's. Jesus said LGBT's are heading for Hell fire.

 

[bluedragon]

If Hitler, Stalin, Saddam and other nasty people will be in heaven I don't think i'd like to go..:)​

So many holes in this work .....Quit taking one verse and trying to shoehorn it into a specific misrepresentation of scripture .....Read the entire chapter and try again ......I know you mean well .....

 

[bluedragon]

If Hitler, Stalin, Saddam and other nasty people will be in heaven I don't think i'd like to go..:)​

The words to the song are "If heaven ain't a lot like Dixie. I don't want to go" LOL .....

 

[Jack]

Where in the Bible does Jesus specifically say this Jack? I don't see any verse you posted on your message my friend

1 Cor 13:8 Love never fails
And I believe the love Jesus has for the LGBT Community will never fail

Gee Harold, how many times must I quote Jesus? Those who read your posts know you reject the Christian Bible.

1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

 

[amigo de christo]

You're LYING to yourself and to LGBT's. Jesus said LGBT's are heading for Hell fire.

 

[amigo de christo]

high time the church gets back to preaching that WHICH IS RIGHT in the SIGHT OF GOD
and not rather being focused about everyones right TO DO EVIL .
IT WONT BODE WELL ON THE DAY OF THE LORD for those who loved a lie and praticed or supported SIN .

 

[Jack]

9:19 PM Oct 26 2023 Thursday, my mother comes downstairs and tries again to get me to stop talking with users from the Christian Universalists Discord server, going on another one of her long winded rants saying "You don't tell people anything about you. Cause they're gonna use that to their advantage, that's the logic to that. ... They're gonna use that against you. They will use that to win your trust. They're gonna be like sympathize. Like oh yeah I understand this is what. But really they're gonna trap you. That's why me even though we have problems in the house I don't tell people. They'll say that's the kind of family I have. Do you think they would care? They're just gonna tell people who you are. And that's embarrassing. Embarrass you. It's gonna bounce back to you. When you're speaking to people you need to be very very smart. You need to think fast. That's why you don't give information. The hard thing here is if that person chatting has a criminal background. Or someone who is ISIS. You just don't know! They can pretend! Especially if they have the ability to come to different places, that more scary. Yeah they interested to talk to, very interested. Like someone about to kill you they're gonna give you food that's really tasty like you're really gonna like it. You have to be very very careful, you don't trust people. ... What is this twisted? Why is this going reversed? You should use your logic. You should practice sensing danger because sensing danger is something that you learned it's not just gonna come to you. Danger is not like something you can ahead of you. Especially nowadays everything is online. You have to see danger. You have to be able to detect that. If you cannot detect that, I don't know what is wrong. That means something wrong with your Christianity. That's a fake Christian. You should have guidance from God. If you're a real Christian, you should have guidance." End of my mother’s quote.



In my mother's cruel self-righteous attitude, she falsely thinks those who do not fit into her arbitrary requirements are not quote-on-quote "true" Christians. As if it were up to her to decide! And what's her reasoning? Because someone can't detect danger? That makes no sense. My view is simple. If someone tells me they're a Christian, then I say to them that they are a Christian. Still, her unkind words hurt me.



```Exodus 15:13 NRSVue In your steadfast love you led the people whom you redeemed; you guided them by your strength to your holy abode. ```



Exodus 15:13 - Moses' Song of Deliverance



Does not the LORD God desire to guide aka lead aka transport נָחִ֥יתָ (nā·ḥî·ṯā) Strong's 5148 all people to permanent safety? Both Christians and non-Christians? All, who are either believers in Christ currently or upcoming believers in Christ? Whether someone's a Christian now or later, Universal Reconciliation with the LORD God is an inevitable event, as He guides all of us towards Him, just as we all were created by Him.

Maybe your Mom is a Christian trying to pull her son from Hell fire.

 

[Jack]

Oct 28 2023 around 1:46 PM Saturday while I was fixing the channel permissions on the Christian Universalists Discord Server, my mother was trying to stop my sister from making plans to pursue mechanical engineering in the future, saying all sorts of sexists remarks. What right does my mother think she has to control the entire life of a person? To take away their whole future?

My sister's good at math, I'd say, well, she's a lot better at it than me I think. Does she view her own daughter as her competition, hence the attempts of sabotage? Under infernalism/annihilationism, how can we ever live a life of peace here on Earth when our fates are treated like a game of sport. Who's going to be saved? Who's going to be lost? It leaves no room for grace.

```John 1:16 NRSVue From his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. ```

John 1:16 - The Word Became Flesh

From His fullness we have all received grace upon grace.

biblehub.com

Because of the fullness of grace

χάριν (charin) Strong's 5485: From chairo; graciousness, so too must it be received by the fullness of all creation through reconciliation with God through Christ by belief in Him given by Him.

LGBT's are going to be lost. Jesus said so. Should we believe you or Jesus?

 

[Hobie]

Well Christ loves the sinner, but He asks him to repent or face the wages of sin and perish.

Luke 13:3
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

 

[Hobie]

Nov 2 2023 around 6:22 PM my infernalist mother comes downstairs and grabs me and starts shaking me while I am sitting in my black chair. She asks if I am possessed by the devil. I cough and she says that I could die from my cough. I wasn’t even telling her anything here and she was still going after me. Assuming that the devil’s a rational being, I think even he will be saved eventually, as well as all other rational beings who will become believers in Christ.

```Romans 11:32 NRSVue For God has imprisoned all in disobedience so that he may be merciful to all. ```



The strategy I was using here, which I’ve used for years, is “grey-rocking” Grey rock method: What it is and how to use it effectively which involves giving short answers and hiding emotional reactions. It hasn’t stopped my mother’s emotional abuse, but it helps me conserve energy. No matter what, my mother’s going to be using me as a sponge to lash out on. I might as well take in that abuse efficiently, I guess.



Of course, inside of me I still feel tense. So, on the outside, I try to keep up this look of being calm. Just enduring until it’s over with, not engaging with her unnecessarily, to reduce my stress. But it’s so hard when she keeps going at it again and again. Just imagining or even thinking about her presence can make me feel like this… bodily shaking on the inside? It’s hard to describe.



Like, I still have this habit of looking behind me. Sometimes I think my mother’s watching me, and I turn around and she’s not there. But other times I’m right, as shown by a recent incident where I literally felt like I was being watched without needing to see her behind me at first. So, when I turned around and literally, there she was, hiding behind an object, watching me, without saying anything, and I expected it. But it’s still very unsettling.

The devil knows what his end is and it is not in heaven with eternal life in Gods kingdom.
Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

[Mr E]

"I'll be following you." my mother says to my sister, referring to the ticket that I bought for my sister to go to a cat cafe. My mother also followed me in the past to my workplace without my permission. I am against my mother’s behavior.



This was yesterday Nov 13 2023 Tuesday night. I texted my sister on Instagram a link to join the Christian Universalists Discord server and she replied back asking me to buy her a ticket online.



My Christian Infernalist mother tried asking for details, but I would avoid answering her question. My card got declined, so I called the bank. I think my mom heard this phone call, because she showed me on her phone's Yahoo email account the ticket receipts that were sent to my sister's Gmail. Automatic email forwarding was turned on, so I removed it and texted my sister again on Instagram. That was earlier in the day.



Then after I returned home from a physical meeting, my sister was telling my mother something like this "You better be in a better mood. I'm not going to give in. ... You shouldn't teach me to tell someone to force them. You shouldn't teach me to give in when someone yells. I'm not going to respond if all you're going to do is yell at me and force me". I refuse to worship a god that tortures anyone forever. Therefore, for God to be a God truly worth worshipping, then He must eventually reconcile Himself with all of His creation. Because either all of creation ought to be there to worship Him together, or none at all. Thus all shall have faith alone in Christ and be permanently saved.



```Psalm 100:1-2 NRSVue Make a joyful noise to the Lord, all the earth. Serve the Lord with gladness; come into his presence with singing. ```



Later my mother says "Disobedient and unrespectful. Very unrespectful. Doesn't even show gratitude for what I've done, for you." I come upstairs because my mother is harassing my sister once again and I tell my mother to stop and then she starts insulting me. I’m used to this though. At least the time she spends insulting me is less time she spends insulting my sister.

Harold? How old are you?

 

[Jack]

I strongly suspect that those who believe everyone will go to Heaven are heading for Hell fire.

 

[Philip James]

Everyone is saved because everyone becomes a believer in Christ eventually. And honestly, I wouldn’t even want to be a Christian if the god that I worship sends even a single person to an eternal hell.

Hello Harold,

sends? hmm maybe not.. but what if they choose that? What if willfully and knowingly someone rejects the love of God and chooses death?

If God, not forcing Himself on anyone allows this choice, would you still not want to live?

I call heaven and earth today to witness against you: I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. Choose life, then, that you and your descendants may live

Pax et Bonum

 

[Jack]

If you think homosexuality is a sin, you are homophobic. If you think being transgender is a sin, you are transphobic. If you think being queer is a sin, you are queerphobic.

How long have you hated the Christian Bible?

1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

Even if God is a God of Christian Universalism, I will gladly reject that God if they are homophobic or transphobic or queerphobic. For a perfect Christian Universalism Heaven to exist, it must be LGBTQIA+ Affirming. This is non-negotiable. Otherwise, any form of a Christian Universal Heaven that is not LGBTQIA+ Affirming will essentially be another form of a Christian Infernalist’s Hell.

You desperately need help! God called gays SHAMEFUL and VILE!

Romans 1
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,

 

[Jack]

I'd just doing ordinary things and my mother would make comments like that. I've lost track of how many. Still, even though all people will die eventually, eventually all people will have faith alone in Christ and be permanently saved. And Heaven will be a place with no more sickness.

If the Bible is true you're telling a WHOPPER!

 

[Philip James]

Even if God is a God of Christian Universalism, I will gladly reject that God if they are homophobic or transphobic or queerphobic. For a perfect Christian Universalism Heaven to exist, it must be LGBTQIA+ Affirming. This is non-negotiable. Otherwise, any form of a Christian Universal Heaven that is not LGBTQIA+ Affirming will essentially be another form of a Christian Infernalist’s Hell.

 

[Jack]

So I tell you all to be kind to Christian Infernalists. Just as we did not choose to believe in what we believe, neither did they. But I remain confident that eventually all people will believe in Christ and will be saved. Because it is the LORD God who has created all of our psychologies, the psychologies that control us, and who continues to control us still.

You're leading LGBTQ's to Hell fire. You will be held accountable. You're LYING to them and to yourself.

1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[Jack]

Hello everyone. I have decided to make this post “ass”-themed.

I’ve been looking through my Google Drive today Nov 20 2023 around 4:22 PM and found from the auditorium incident, yesterday, a scene I forgot to include. A lot happened on that day and I feel like I’ve spent most of the day just trying to process and recover from what happened, it’s been like a pain in the ass tbh.


So, my Christian Universalist sister had this kick ass speech, which I agree with, that I’ll include here

So, my sister says to my infernalist mother “You have issues I don’t want to hear you talk about me. You went all the way in my face and with that fake ass happiness. For some reason in you head you want grandma and grandpa to agree with you. I’m in a situation where I don’t want to start fighting you in the middle of an auditorium and that shouldn’t be a position that you're putting me in. I’m not going to do what you're doing and you're making passive aggressive comments. I was in a situation where I couldn’t say anything with my grandparents in an auditorium.”

Then my mother was getting upset that my sister used the word “ass”. You can say my mom’s got like a stick up her ass. But like, first of all, I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with using vulgar language. Here’s a good post from a Christian Universalist friend of mine that goes over it well: ‘Swear words’: should one repent after dropping an f-bomb?

I also tell my mother that the word “ass” literally appears in translations of the Bible

```Genesis 16:12 NRSVue He shall be a wild ass of a man, with his hand against everyone, and everyone’s hand against him, and he shall live at odds with all his kin.” ```

```Genesis 49:11 YLT Binding to the vine his ass, And to the choice vine the colt of his ass, He hath washed in wine his clothing, And in the blood of grapes his covering; ```

So, my sister says “All they see is this girl who’s smiling weirdly and making comments because they don’t know you but I know you”.



But who will know the LORD? Everyone. Since the beginning, Christ knew He’d come in to save my ass, that’s for sure. And Christ’s gonna save everybody. Cause who will believe in the LORD Christ? All people.

Your main concern should be that Paul / Jesus said you will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Ever heard of Hell fire?

 

[Jack]

There was a Ph.D researcher who was speaking this morning Nov 21 2023 about, when it comes to persuasion, when something sounds too good to be true, our minds may perceive it as suspicious, and in our head we could come up with counter arguments for it.



For Christian Universalism, the concept where everyone eventually becomes believers in Christ, for outsiders, does it sound too good to be true? Because quite literally everyone goes to Heaven… eventually.



But is there such a thing as “too bad to be true”? , like Christian Infernalism, where people are literally tortured forever.



So let’s make a random equation for fun. A little bit of silliness here.

Christian Universalism: Too good to be true. Vs. Christian Infernalism Too bad to be true



But to make it simpler, since this is in a Christian framework anyways, it’s a bit redundant to feature “Christian” here, no? So let’s just…



Universalism: Too good to be true. Vs. Infernalism Too bad to be true



Ehhhh, but, what the heck. We’re already removing some repeat words here, might as well remove some other ones too. What we got here… uhhh….. “Too”, “to”, “be” and “true” alright I can work with that. Voila.



Universalism: good. Vs. Infernalism bad



*shocked face emoji* owo

Look everyone, we did it!!!!111 universalism good!!!!111 Infernalism bad!!!!11 *phew* that’s a relief. After all these months making these Daily Quotes, I didn’t think it’d be that easy. But, luckily, happily, fortunately, things just happen to work out huh, would you look at that uwu

…

Ok ok ok but seriously. If you think about the complaint against Universalism where it’s “Too good to be true”, I think of another word that starts with “comp”, yes “compliment”. Cause there’s at least a level of “good” in it.



And can God ever be “too good”. It’s like… God’s goodness is so good that it goes beyond the concept of goodness that we can understand. But of course, this is all under the assumption that you see everyone getting saved as “good” and everyone not getting saved as “bad”. So, it kinda circles back lol, and this post’s more of a reinforcement one if anything. But it was just a lil silly goofy jolly thought I had I wanted to share.



```Psalms 107:1 NRSVue O give thanks to the Lord, for he is good, for his steadfast love endures forever. ```

Do you really think you will be in God's eternal Kingdom when you continuously call God of the Bible a liar?

 

[The Learner]

This morning Nov 25 2023 before 11:55 AM I was at my first church choir practice with my sister at the Meeting Place, and when I saw the lyrics of the song, they reminded me of Christian Universalism.



In the page of the binder they provided it reads “Lo, How A Rose E’er Bloom. Words: verses 1-2, 15th Century Germany. Translated by Theodore Baker, 1894. Verses 3,4 Friedrich Layritz (1808-1859). Translated by Harriet Reynolds Krauth, 1875. Verse 5, 15th Century German. Translated by John C. Mattes, 1914. Music: ‘Es Ist Ein Ros Entsprungen (Rhythmic)’ German from Köln, 1599. Setting: Michael Prateorius, 1609. copyright: public domain. This score is a part of the Open Hymnal Project, 2010 Revisions.



Where a line reads “As an – gel her - - alds said. death He saves us, And light – ens ev - - ‘ry load.”

Describing how Jesus Christ died to lighten the load of sin for everyone. Thus, I personally see everyone as having faith alone in Jesus Christ eventually to be permanently saved.



And at the bottom left corner of this page it reads “Mt 1:20-21”

```Matthew 1:20-21 NRSVue But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will bear a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” ```



And who are the Jesus’ people? All people. For I also personally see Jesus as God, since God has created all people.

Colossians 1:15-20
Easy-to-Read Version
The Son of God Is the Same as God
15 No one can see God,
but the Son is exactly like God.
He rules over everything that has been made.[a]
16 Through his power all things were made:
things in heaven and on earth, seen and not seen—
all spiritual rulers, lords, powers, and authorities.
Everything was made through him and for him.

17 The Son was there before anything was made.
And all things continue because of him.
18 He is the head of the body, which is the church.
He is the beginning of everything else.
And he is the first among all who will be raised from death.
So in everything he is most important.

19 God was pleased for all of himself to live in the Son.
20 And through him, God was happy to bring all things back to himself again—
things on earth and things in heaven.
God made peace by using the blood sacrifice of his Son on the cross.

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Footnotes
Colossians 1:15 He … made Literally, “He is the firstborn of all creation.” See “firstborn” in the Word List.
Colossians 1:18 first … death Literally, “firstborn from the dead.”