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Agreed with all you said, but have a question on this one point. WHO does the book/bible say the 'Lake of fire" was made for?
I tend to not limit myself to the one source, namely the bible. In fact I go out of my may to resist my, if I can put it this way, natural default tendency to go to the bible and quote the bible.

I know this may not scratch the itch many believe can only come from using the bible as their back scratcher. For me the bible can be used but I have chosen another means, another type of scratcher that satisfied the itch as it were.

If you are satisfied by only using the bible to answer questions, provide understanding and your means of finding truth then we may end up speaking to each other in differently languages without an interpreter.
 
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You obviously did nothing to back why MY scriptural quote disagrees with your scriptural quote. And you obviously didn't deal with how Jesus could have SPOKEN the word HELL out of his mouth when that word didn't even exist until 775 AD. There are THREE, 3 Greek words that get translated as HELL in the NT. None of them have the same definition in either Strong's or Young's GREEK DICTIONARY.

KJV MAT 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of HELL fire.
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MAT 5:22 but I - I say to you, that every one who is angry at his brother without cause, shall be in danger of the judgment, and whoever may say to his brother, Empty fellow! shall be in danger of the sanhedrim, and whoever may say, Rebel! shall be in danger of the GEHENNA of the fire.

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LUK 10:15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to HELL.
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LUK 10:15* 'And thou, Capernaum, which unto the heaven wast exalted, unto HADES thou shalt be brought down.

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2PE 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to HELL, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
YLT 2PE 2:4 For if God messengers who sinned did not spare, but with chains of thick gloom, having cast {them} down to TARTARUS, did deliver {them} to judgment, having been reserved,

So, your bible has one word for 3 different HELLS in my YLT. WHY?
The KJV has the word HELL in it 54 times. YOUR newer bible translation has it in there either 12, 13 or 14 times....WHY?

Answer all my questions or don't bother answering at all. Because it appears to me, that it just won't be fruitful.
Do you realize that you will be accountable for everyone you lead to Hell? All of our Bibles preach the EVERLASTING FIRE!

Luke 16
19 "There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.
 

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Isa_34:16 "Seek ye out of The Book of The LORD, and read..." =Only ONE 'Book' = The Authorized (KJB) Version:
The guy who spoke these words, or should I say, the prophet of the LORD spaketh unto them and sayeth. Isaiah wrote this quote around 700bce so if he was asking people to read something then it had probably had to be already written. Unless there is another way of reading something that hasn't been written yet.

May AI could help with that. But I'm not sure whether AI was available back then.

So this documentation (like AI, books didn't exist back then as the first books were created around 500 BC as hand-written scrolls) must have been written before 700 bce.

The bible as a book of books wasn't compiled as a compilation of recognised and accepted by the evolving church til after the final contributor finished his writing around 100 ce that's 800 years after Isaiah referend to this documentation of the Lord.

The KJV came into existence around 1600 ce that's 2300 years after Isaiah said, seek out...and read.

Maybe its only obvious to me that it wasn't the book, the bible, the King James Version of the bible that Isaiah was referring to.

Lastly, where is Isaiah's reference to this 'book' being only 1 book AND being the King James version bible?

I cannot find it in there. Did you get a secret revelation from Isaiah. Some people claim to have spoken to and have heard from the dead.
 
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The Bible has advanced over time according to God's perfect will. We have all we need to know in our Christian Bible.
 
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Isa_34:16 "Seek ye out of The Book of The LORD, and read..." =Only ONE 'Book' = The Authorized (KJB) Version:
And to add to my previous post...

So I think you are saying that Isaiah was expecting God to enable his audience, like him, to be taken 811 years into the future, to spend 3 days (70 hours) to read the whole King James version of the bible, then go back to year 700 bce and agree or disagree with Isaiah, after testing his words with the KJV they had read and committed to memory.

Actually they probably would have to stay in year 1600 ce for the whole year or more to memorise the whole KJV bible before going back to year 700 bce.

You have great faith in and commitment to the KJV bible GRACE ambassador, to believe this.
 

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We have all we need to know in our Christian Bible.
I'm curious. Who told you this? Or, how did you come to this conclusion? Does your Christian bible say that?

I'll ask on behalf of those who are accustomed to ask, not me.....chapter and verse please
 

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I'm curious. Who told you this? Or, how did you come to this conclusion? Does your Christian bible say that?

I'll ask on behalf of those who are accustomed to ask, not me.....chapter and verse please
Why are you ATTACKING the Christian Bible?
 

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I'm curious as to your take on 'the bible' concerning 'your opinion'?

JOH 20:23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."
My Bible reads a bit different…

John 20:23 "Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained."

The word “ye” is addressed to a particular… so this is not addressed to you and me and the power to do such as mentioned, we may not be privy to….


Do you include yourself when Jesus says..
“If you forgive the sin”?
 

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MT 7 Narrow is the way that leads to life and FEW there be who find it!
So simple….

There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Yea…. That sounds like everyone is going to make it.
 
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Luke 13:23-24
23 Then one said to Him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?" And He said to them,
24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.
 
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No…. How would this be possible when Satan and the fallen angels have already been sentenced to death.

I was referring to praying that all PEOPLE'S sin be forgiven.

Some think that scripture gives them power to pray someone in to Heaven without them getting born again are walking with the Lord.

They be sadly mistaken.
 

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Luke 13:23-24
23 Then one said to Him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?" And He said to them,
24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.
Matthew 23:13
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

After all this craziness throughout the world’s history, everyone makes it, and everyone lives happily ever after. Sounds nice… But we serve a jealous God.. a God that pours out hail fire.

A God that doesn’t play… Sorry, but Disney fairytales hold nothing when God pours out the veils of wrath upon mankind.