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Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Gods pouring of wrath was only one time, it was what destroyed Jerusalem in 70Ad for having turned from God and judgement of divorce was made; and then you have all those who come out of the tribulation, and those who come out from hell and judged and those who are judged at the white throne judgement which I believe has happened. There are two destinations to end up, either inside of the Kingdom of Heaven or outside of it.
Like Hell was a sepration from God; outside of the Kingdom is a replacement for it; once it was done away with.
Overall its not univeralism; univeralism is where all roads lead into “being with God after this life in the Kingdom and everything is A-okay.
God desires for people to turn and reconcile with Him, and the lake of fire could be considered to come by and from God; and if God is love, can he remove stains even after this life if someone on the outside wants to come in? Though it may be hard or torturous to go through, to know who paid for your sin?
Like Hell was a sepration from God; outside of the Kingdom is a replacement for it; once it was done away with.
Overall its not univeralism; univeralism is where all roads lead into “being with God after this life in the Kingdom and everything is A-okay.
God desires for people to turn and reconcile with Him, and the lake of fire could be considered to come by and from God; and if God is love, can he remove stains even after this life if someone on the outside wants to come in? Though it may be hard or torturous to go through, to know who paid for your sin?
Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
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