69,195 reasons I am NOT a christian Zionist

[LoveYeshua]

Yes, that is why i stated that it is their religion, shariah law, by which they become slaves of violence to.

But make no mistake that the Jewish Talmud has the very same declarations against gentiles and christians.
They believe the OT law is still in place and gives them the right to slay their enemies = gentiles/christians.

For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Judea that are in Christ Jesus. You suffered from your own countrymen the very things they suffered from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and hostile to all men, hindering us from telling the Gentiles how they may be saved. As a result, they continue to heap up their sins to full capacity; the utmost wrath has come upon them. - 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

The Roman Catholic church/Vatican, cloaked as christianity, carried out the Inquisition. The torture and murder of many.

I agree brother the RCC is not of God. I know In Quebec in the french schools we all had to go through them... I remember well. And even very young , I knew they were no good at all. Here too in Quebec the priests used to knock on doors to ask the women why they stopped having children. My mother shut the door to their faces every year and they got tired of it and left us alone....

 

[David in NJ]

I agree brother the RCC is not of God. I know In Quebec in the french schools we all had to go through them... I remember well. And even very young , I knew they were no good at all. Here too in Quebec the priests used to knock on doors to ask the women why they stopped having children. My mother shut the door to their faces every year and they got tired of it and left us alone....

i read true account horrific stories of abuse on children at the RCC orphanages in Canada - especially to the indigenous children.

Heartbreaking

Good Night Brother

 

[Debp]

Islam doesn't have control of our government.

But they are now seeking control of Western countries in order to establish Shari'a. Some of their imans preach they will takeover the West. I saw they give scholarships specifically so Muslims can become lawyers and get into politics. They know they must control by getting into politics.

The UK has already pretty much been Islamicized. Many sex crimes done by them and knife crimes including attempted beheadings. One attempted beheading was done to a soldier, Lee Rigby, who was simply walking down the street. Lee died. The other attempted beheading was done to a special needs man who was also blinded in at least one eye by the attacker. A Good Samaritan saved him.

Europe also has many Muslim migrants, a lot of them illegal. They do a lot of terrorist attacks there too. Driving into Christmas markets and knife attacks. And they have joined in the current riots in Europe, siding with leftists.

 

[Debp]

Must see video to see what Western countries are facing. Israel already has faced this. These are imans and Islamic scholars preaching. Anyone who isn't a Muslim is an infidel by their definition.

 

[GodsGrace]

genocide is not the answer, they have no place to go, little food, no electricity no medical supplies, dying of hunger and malnutrition they are prisoners and cannot get out of there, no one wants them. it looks like a planned genocide to me,

Genocide.
That's like calling Trump a nazi.
Why do we do this?
Why do we minimize terrible ideas by placing the title on persons/governments that are NOT engaging in atrocious acts?

Genocide means a particular race is being targeted for extinction.
This is not the same as attacking a country.
It Italy was to be attacked tomorrow....those to die would be Italian.
Does that mean the attacker wants to practice genocide on Italians?
No.


Same for Gaza.
Israel is DEFENDING itself.
If the attackers happen to be Palestinians...so be it.

And what is a Palestinian anyway?
Was there ever a Palestinian state?
No.

Some palistinians were living on this land but it was NOT A STATE.

I believe it was a big mistake for Israel to heed England and keep them and provide a place for them.
They should have been banned from the land that Israel legally fought for and won in 1947.

also many Jews hate Christians, we are next on that list

Sounds like YOU are doing what some on this thread are doing:
Spreading unfounded fear.

Now just transfer what you're doing to the proper target....
Jews are not your enemy...
Islam is your enemy.

what you say its backed by Jesus? is this true? its not, when war wad due GOD did speak to israel and told them what to do its not the case here, yes they can defend themselves but a genocide? NO!

Please give us the statistics of how many Palestinians there were before the WAR and After.
If you're right,,,,most will have had to be killed, and purposefully so...not because they were in the way of a bomb.

When this started Israel dropped leaflets warning that bombs were coming and to flee to the south.
Sounds anththetical to wanting to kill off a particular race of people.

What they are Doing now has to do with preparation to rebuild the temple, and take back all territories God gave them, but this way, genocide and murder of children? NO.

So dramatic.

Where were YOU when bombs fell every day on Israel and SCHOOL CHILDREN on school buses were the targets of bombs?

Perhaps there is more hatred of Jews here than fear of Muslims....your true enemies.

I think Jesus said that we are to hate NO ONE.
He also said to be wise.

Be wise.

 

[GodsGrace]

they lived peacefully for hundreds of years, but the ultra orthodox Jews rule Israel now and want to do it their way, the wrong way. I have known some of these and they have no respect and only contempt for those who are not like them. they hate Christians.

Maybe Jews hate Christians...let's give you the benefit of the doubt.

Do you see them killing any?

Are you aware of what's going on in Nigeria?

Is it the JEWS killing the Christians?

Wake up people.

 

[GodsGrace]

Muslims are a problem wherever they go, it is an evil religion, i have known many muslims, most are not problematic and peaceful but know this , when they reach a majority somewhere they want to impose their shariah Law, they are a prolific people they are baby factories, I know their imams ask them to make babies as much as possible to spread Islam, its a cancer on this earth and no good will come of it. All religions that are man made, and there are many that do not reflect the perfection of GOD and Our Blessed Lord , are problematic. As well many are corrupt and are not in accordance with the words of Christ. His Words are eternal life.

Blessings brother David in NJ.

OK
Let's focus on the problem here.
WHO is living the Gaza?

All it would have taken for peace
would have been for those in Gaza
TO DO NOTHING.


@David in NJ

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes, that is why i stated that it is their religion, shariah law, by which they become slaves of violence to.

But make no mistake that the Jewish Talmud has the very same declarations against gentiles and christians.
They believe the OT law is still in place and gives them the right to slay their enemies = gentiles/christians.

For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Judea that are in Christ Jesus. You suffered from your own countrymen the very things they suffered from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and hostile to all men, hindering us from telling the Gentiles how they may be saved. As a result, they continue to heap up their sins to full capacity; the utmost wrath has come upon them. - 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

The Roman Catholic church/Vatican, cloaked as christianity, carried out the Inquisition. The torture and murder of many.

David
You're all over the place.
Islam is a violent religion.
Jews are killing no one but those that are destroying their right to live a peaceful life.
What if Canada dropped bombs on Norther NY every now and then.
Should NY be allowed to respond or not?

And the crusades?
Now Catholics also want to kill everyone.
If it were not for the crusades you and I would be Muslim right now and speaking Arabic.
Let's study a little history.

And because the clergy of a denomination made a mistake at some point in a 2 thousand year history is not the reason that denomination should be condemned.

Protestants have burned people alive and drowned many women that were believed to be witches/demon possessed.

So..
maybe we should just abolish all religion?

 

[GodsGrace]

In the last hundred years Islam hasn't removed hundreds of thousands of people from off the face of the earth, including their historical sites, mostly Christian, as they are currently doing in Lebanon.
Islam doesn't have control of our government. If it wasn't for talmudic/ zionist Jews influencing and creating these immigration policies, we would not have a problem with massive Muslim migration ( which is 100 times worse in Europe).
The same people that control our media have brainwashed you into thinking that Muslims are the problem. They're not. We may not like their religion, but we can have control over them if we can have control of our government back.

Luther,
Your post displays such ignorance of the problem that it leaves me with little to say.
Where do you live?
I live in Europe.
You think it's THE JEWS that have created the problem here?

If your'e intersted I'll tell you who created the problem.
But you're so filled with misinformation you probably would not even HEAR what I'd have to say.

The media is PROTECTING muslims.....
I do NOT see the media claiming that THEY are the problem.
Where do you get your news from??
Why do you think white, Christian people from European countries,,,IOW,,,the indginenous population, are siding with the muslims??
Because their schools and the media have brainwashed them into believing that their country is evil and that muslims are just trying to get along and have the right to exist ANYWHERE.

NO.
They do NOT have the right to live anywhere because they bring their culture and sharia lawa with them and WILL NOT ASSIMILATE.

What they want to do is to change YOUR country so that it becomes like THEIRS.

WAKE UP PEOPLE.

 

[GodsGrace]

Sorry or hogging the thread...
it's due to the time difference.

 

[brightmorningstar]

Yes, that is why i stated that it is their religion, shariah law, by which they become slaves of violence to.

But make no mistake that the Jewish Talmud has the very same declarations against gentiles and christians.
They believe the OT law is still in place and gives them the right to slay their enemies = gentiles/christians.

For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Judea that are in Christ Jesus. You suffered from your own countrymen the very things they suffered from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and hostile to all men, hindering us from telling the Gentiles how they may be saved. As a result, they continue to heap up their sins to full capacity; the utmost wrath has come upon them. - 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

The Roman Catholic church/Vatican, cloaked as christianity, carried out the Inquisition. The torture and murder of many.

So Islam considers Noah, Lot, Samson, Abraham etc etc Muslims. So would the Talmud declarations against gentiles and Christians be Islamic?
1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 "the very things they suffered from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets and drove us out as well. Islam says Isa whom they claim to be Jesus, didnt die at all.

So I wouldn't make any comparison of Islam/sharia law.

 

[GodsGrace]

So Islam considers Noah, Lot, Samson, Abraham etc etc Muslims. So would the Talmud declarations against gentiles and Christians be Islamic?
1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 "the very things they suffered from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets and drove us out as well. Islam says Isa whom they claim to be Jesus, didnt die at all.

So I wouldn't make any comparison of Islam/sharia law.

The Jews don't even poselytize.

We Christians do,,,but in a peaceful manner.

Islam was spread by Muhhamad using violence,,,death, destruction,
capturing slaves, raping women - legally because they were captured in war - , and all sorts of atrocities.

Maybe we could take our focus off Israel that is just trying to survive...
and place it where it belongs.

 

[brightmorningstar]

The Jews don't even poselytize.

We Christians do,,,but in a peaceful manner.

Islam was spread by Muhhamad using violence,,,death, destruction,
capturing slaves, raping women - legally because they were captured in war - , and all sorts of atrocities.

Maybe we could take our focus off Israel that is just trying to survive...
and place it where it belongs.

Yes indeed. Well said.
Also I would say whereas peace is found in Christ Jesus for the heart and mind of the Christian believer
Rom 5:1 "Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we[fn] have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,"
Phl 4:7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Islam as I understand it, is a geo-political religion, it has dar al Islam, the house of peace and dar al harb, the house of war. Those lands under sharia law are in dar al Islam, at 'peace'.

The Jews just have a homeland, Islam wants to conquer it and the west.

 

[markalan]

Must see video to see what Western countries are facing. Israel already has faced this. These are imans and Islamic scholars preaching. Anyone who isn't a Muslim is an infidel by their definition.

We have a left wing federal government here in Australia - they need the Muslim vote so they are soft on the hate preachers who incite violence among extremists - such as the massacre of 15 Jews at a Sydney beach last December.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes indeed. Well said.
Also I would say whereas peace is found in Christ Jesus for the heart and mind of the Christian believer
Rom 5:1 "Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we[fn] have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,"
Phl 4:7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Islam as I understand it, is a geo-political religion, it has dar al Islam, the house of peace and dar al harb, the house of war. Those lands under sharia law are in dar al Islam, at 'peace'.

The Jews just have a homeland, Islam wants to conquer it and the west.

Correct.
Islam teaches that they are correct and they are to conquer the entire world.
Islam means peace. But they don't practice it....just witness the rioting in France..
it wasn't the Christians OR the Jews. The flags being waved looked black, white and orange to me.

Muslim means one that follow Allah.
Except the're not following Allah..they're following Muhammad -why else do they kill persons that speak against Muhammad? Oh,,and that is so peaceful, right?

They are to kill the infedel.
Guess who the infedel are?
US.
And anyone that does not accept the peaceful religion of Islam...
Those not adhering can either:
1. Pay a fine
2. Have their head cut off
Depending on who is dispensing the Law lenient he wishes to be.

We need to shift our focus to the real problem.

 

[Pathfinder789]

Do you realize that Palestine has a large CHRISTIAN population, and that they are being murdered right and left by Israel?

Good point..
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Palestinian Christians are going through difficult time.
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'5 things to know about Israel's oppression of Christian Palestinians.'
- Institute for Middle East Understanding. (imeu.org)

 

[Debp]

OK
Let's focus on the problem here.
WHO is living the Gaza?

All it would have taken for peace
would have been for those in Gaza
TO DO NOTHING.


@David in NJ

Correct. If Hamas wouldn't have attacked, raped and kidnapped Jews from the music festival, no war would have started.

Israel had left Gaza in 2005 and left them to elect their own government. They elected Hamas.

 

[GodsGrace]

Correct. If Hamas wouldn't have attacked, raped and kidnapped Jews from the music festival, no war would have started.

Israel had left Gaza in 2005 and left them to elect their own government. They elected Hamas.

Agreed.
But going back WAY BEFORE 2005.
I remember the 1960's.

 

[LoveYeshua]

i read true account horrific stories of abuse on children at the RCC orphanages in Canada - especially to the indigenous children.

Heartbreaking

Good Night Brother

yes it is terrible, some of these nuns and priest did abuse on different level, sexual or for control but not all of them of course, some were decent. today because of such unspeakable evil, the RRC churches in the province of Quebec are mostly empty and many fell or are falling into ruin.

Blessings.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Maybe Jews hate Christians...let's give you the benefit of the doubt.

Do you see them killing any?

Are you aware of what's going on in Nigeria?

Is it the JEWS killing the Christians?

Wake up people.

not all Jews but certain sects.