7th Seal: The Great Divide

[robert derrick]

I believe the 7th seal is the time of the greatest ever divide on earth, with the space of about a half hour:

And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

This 'space' is often overlooked, but it is a time, of about a half hour, that makes a clear division that make a complete break and separation between what was happening on earth before, and begins to happen on earth after.

All the prophecies of the Lord coming to earth among men, is about the Lord coming to judge and rule them on earth: The 7th seal and that space of time, is between man ruling on earth, and Christ ruling the earth.

Up to that 7th seal space of time, men ruled on earth, and many times with the tribulation and wrath of man upon the righteous, beginning with Cain against Abel.

That time on earth ends with the 7th seal, and after that space of time, the Lord's great tribulation and wrath begins over all the earth.

The 7th seal and it's space of time, begins with the second coming of the Lord to earth and first resurrection of His saints, to meet with Him in the air. At the end of about a half hour, the Lamb's wrath is poured out upon them remaining on the earth.

The silence in heaven is that of God, that takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, and is followed immediately by the woeful of great sounds of trumpets over all inhabitors of the earth.

They heard the calling sound of the trumpet of the Lord at Sinai, and drew back from His face on the mount. They will hear the wrathful sound of many trumpets from the Lamb, and will hide from His wrath.

If people will not acknowledge the clear difference on earth, between the wrath of man, that works not righteousness of God, and the wrath of God that punishes with righteous judgment, then the last of great tribulation on earth is either said to be all from man or all from God: Tt's both and the two are clearly divided in Scripture:

Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

And, behold, as thy life was much set by this day in mine eyes, so let my life be much set by in the eyes of the LORD, and let him deliver me out of all tribulation.

But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

There are two different manners of tribulation and wrath on earth: one of man that purifies saints, one of God that punishes the wicked.

These last days of man's tribulation and wrath among nations, will end at the 7th seal, when the Lord appears again, to first receive His own unto Himself, and then after about the space of a respectable half hour, He pours out His wrath from the air.

 

[Truth7t7]

when the Lord appears again, to first receive His own unto Himself, and then after about the space of a respectable half hour, He pours out His wrath from the air.

Scripture teaches in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" the resurrection takes place, as death is swallowed up in victory, your claim of a half hour is a long blinking eye, smiles!

1 Corinthians 15:52-54KJV
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

 

[robert derrick]

Scripture teaches in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" the resurrection takes place, as death is swallowed in victory, that's a long blinking eye, smiles!

1 Corinthians 15:52-54KJV
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

True.

The beginning of the 7th seal is that moment and twinkling of the eye, not the space of a half hour, before the Lord's wrath beings with prayers of the saints and trumpet blasts.

Since the moment is speaking of resurrection and instant change to immortality, then the rise into the air can be with time, even as Jesus and the two witnesses in sight of all men.

Perhaps the space of about a half hour, all saints since Abel ascend from the earth with clouds all over the earth, whether they were buried or lived on earth.

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

That's a whole lot of clouds covering the earth. The Lord's coming is prophesied also with great darkness. Perhaps world-wide blanket cloud covering, where neither light of sun nor moon can be seen. Or just shadows thereof.

 

[Truth7t7]

True.

The beginning of the 7th seal is that moment and twinkling of the eye, not the space of a half hour, before the Lord's wrath beings with prayers of the saints and trumpet blasts.

False, in the twinkling of an eye, death is swallowed up in victory

You claimed the Lord removed believers, then a half hour later he poured his wrath out on the world "Wrong"

 

[robert derrick]

If the 7th seal is the great divider on earth, between the wrath of man upon saints, and wrath of God upon the wicked, then Rev 7 is the resurrection of saints with their foreheads sealed with immortality.

Taking about an half hour during the staying of winds blowing over all the earth, with silence in heaven: All is quiet on the Western Front, just before the final storm.

And if we see the sealed resurrection in Seal-Team 5, when the souls under the altar are robed in white. Then that would therefore put the first resurrection about a half hour before the 6th seal of wrath of the Lamb, upon them hiding on earth.

Therefore, that space of about a half hour in between resurrection and wrath, is the greatest divider of all time on earth: no more saints to trouble, and no more time to escape the wrath of God.

The simple pattern of Rev 6 is the rise of the last beast, decline of his promises, his war with saints, the first resurrection, and wrath of the Lamb.

Perhaps as Nero of Rome, the Christians will once again be the scapegoats for a Caesar's own failures.

Rev 7 is that resurrection, that also prophecies dwelling with God forever, and Rev 8 is the beginning of wrath of the Lamb and woes on all inhabiters of the earth.

The 7th trumpet following the resurrection in Rev 11, is the swift victory of the Lord of Lords unto Jerusalem, so that the kingdoms of the world are become His kingdoms and nations on earth.

The 7th seal resurrection of all saints from the earth, concludes with the 7th trumpet victory of the Lamb over all the earth.

 

[robert derrick]

False, in the twinkling of an eye, death is swallowed up in victory

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

You claimed the Lord removed believers, then a half hour later he poured his wrath out on the world "Wrong"

Right.

I'm liking it more and more, as more Scripture presents itself to support it, and none is offered that corrects it.

 

[Truth7t7]

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


Right.

I'm liking it more and more, as more Scripture presents itself to support it, and none is offered that corrects it.

1 Corinthians 15:52-54 states death is swallowed up in victory in the twinkling of an eye, as you teach living humans will be on earth, that will receive God's wrath after this twinkling of an eye takes place, you have the cart before the horse, Big Smiles!

 

[robert derrick]

1 Corinthians 15:52-54 states death is swallowed up in victory in the twinkling of an eye, as you teach living humans will be on earth, that will receive God's wrath after this twinkling of an eye takes place, you have the cart before the horse, Big Smiles!

Ok, let's see if I get this right.

You believe the Lord's second coming to earth, is with the one resurrection of all dead, with the saints unto life and the wicked unto shame.

Therefore, death being swallowed up in victory, simply means there will be no more natural people on earth to die ever? Not on this earth as is, nor on the new earth?

This still doesn't negate the great divide of the 7th seal, since you still say the resurrection is still followed by wrath of God upon all them on the earth.

With about a half hour in between.

 

[Truth7t7]

since you still say the resurrection is still followed by wrath of God upon all them on the earth.

With about a half hour in between.

False, Jesus returns and in the twinkling of an eye, the resurrection of all, final judgment, and NHNE takes place (The End)

 

[robert derrick]

False, Jesus returns and in the twinkling of an eye, the resurrection of all, final judgment, and NHNE takes place (The End)

Should have just said so in the first place. It's a nonstarter to talk about what happens after the Lord's second coming and first resurrection, with amil.

 

[covenantee]

Should have just said so in the first place. It's a nonstarter to talk about what happens after the Lord's second coming and first resurrection, with amil.

Hebrews 10:9