A Biblical Abortion?

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The Test for an Unfaithful Wife​

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

Verse 21 in the NIV says the unfaithful wife will have a miscarriage. Many other versions say nothing about a miscarriage they say her belly will swell and her thigh will rot. If I give someone something to drink for the purpose of causing a miscarriage that is an abortion. Was God causing miscarriages or did the translators get carried away here?
I'd say the intent was miscarriage should the allegedly unfaithful wife be pregnant.

The purpose of the rite is to ascertain adultery by the woman. There is no other reason for administering the bitter water rite than to expell the evidence from her womb.

The lower extremities of the accused woman contort due to the bitter water formula.

This torture a means to garner her confession due to her suffering? Or rather, to cause tremendous contortions,contractions, that causes expulsion of the fruits of her alleged adultery.


And if she miscarries, how would the husband know they didn't just kill his child?

After this abuse should a miscarriage occur,what then happens next to the alleged adulterous wife? Per the law.
 
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Does anyone else see a 'conflict of interest' here? A pro abortionist who eats human babies?
It's a long exposed urban legend. The image of the so called soup was fake. And an excerpt of a graphic artists piece.

Warning, graphic image @ link.
 
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It's a long exposed urban legend. The image of the so called soup was fake. And an excerpt of a graphic artists piece.

Warning, graphic image @ link.
I didn't post the link, but we do have someone here promoting eating babies, so I wouldn't be a bit surprised that there are many baby eaters in the world.
 
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Post 63

And read the rest of his posts in that thread.
 
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Post 63

And read the rest of his posts in that thread.
I did read that.
I also traced your exchange with Stan B to this reply,
Jack said:
Stan B : "But babies are a blessing, and good to be eaten for food during hard times:"

The full Stan B post,unless that's all he posted,has been deleted.

As has he been most likely, if a ban were ever warranted.
 
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The child is aborted, because the father no longer wants any child, not even God.

A child that lives without God, is a great great curse.
 

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I did read that.
I also traced your exchange with Stan B to this reply,
Jack said:
Stan B : "But babies are a blessing, and good to be eaten for food during hard times:"

The full Stan B post,unless that's all he posted,has been deleted.

As has he been most likely, if a ban were ever warranted.
He's still here and you missed some of his other posts.
 

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He's still here and you missed some of his other posts.
I read all to that one post of yours that I shared here.

If he actually believes in eating babies for any reason, I would suggest he is mentally ill.

We should pray for him :pray: . I don't think it would be wise to encourage him further and worsen his condition.
 

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I read all to that one post of yours that I shared here.

If he actually believes in eating babies for any reason, I would suggest he is mentally ill.

We should pray for him :pray: . I don't think it would be wise to encourage him further and worsen his condition.
Mentally ill? More like demon possessed.
 
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I'd say the intent was miscarriage should the allegedly unfaithful wife be pregnant.

The purpose of the rite is to ascertain adultery by the woman. There is no other reason for administering the bitter water rite than to expell the evidence from her womb.

The lower extremities of the accused woman contort due to the bitter water formula.

This torture a means to garner her confession due to her suffering? Or rather, to cause tremendous contortions,contractions, that causes expulsion of the fruits of her alleged adultery.


And if she miscarries, how would the husband know they didn't just kill his child?

After this abuse should a miscarriage occur,what then happens next to the alleged adulterous wife? Per the law.
The link you provided from Bible Gateway doesn’t say anything about pregnancy or miscarriage
 

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The link you provided from Bible Gateway doesn’t say anything about pregnancy or miscarriage
Numbers 5:11-22 NIV
married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.” Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it”’”
 

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Numbers 5:11-22 NIV
married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you.But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”—here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.” Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it”’”
Yes as I pointed out earlier the NIV was the first one that interpreted it that way. There may be others now but they are the minority
 

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Yes as I pointed out earlier the NIV was the first one that interpreted it that way. There may be others now but they are the minority
Forcing a woman to drink bitter water that causes severe contractions to her womb is intended to cause miscarriage.

At least the NIV has the courage to reveal the truth of the curse.