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The thesis of the chapter is the centrality of having faith in Christ and that's how you're saved. You, no matter your thoroughness, cannot be saved just via the Law of Moses or other things. You NEED Christ.
A question for mormons.
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The thesis of the chapter is the centrality of having faith in Christ and that's how you're saved. You, no matter your thoroughness, cannot be saved just via the Law of Moses or other things. You NEED Christ.
2 Nephi 25 chapter summary:
Nephi glories in plainness—Isaiah’s prophecies will be understood in the last days—The Jews will return from Babylon, crucify the Messiah, and be scattered and scourged—They will be restored when they believe in the Messiah—He will first come six hundred years after Lehi left Jerusalem—The Nephites keep the law of Moses and believe in Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel. About 559–545 B.C.
Nephi glories in plainness—Isaiah’s prophecies will be understood in the last days—The Jews will return from Babylon, crucify the Messiah, and be scattered and scourged—They will be restored when they believe in the Messiah—He will first come six hundred years after Lehi left Jerusalem—The Nephites keep the law of Moses and believe in Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel. About 559–545 B.C.
Which one?
2Co 11:3, But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2Co 11:4, For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Since the Jesus of Mormonism is the spirit-brother of Lucifer, and the Jesus of the Bible is God, I would say that the Jesus of Mormonism is another Jesus whom the apostles didn't preach.
Grailhunter
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Actually, the concept does...in Proverbs 30:4.
That is hilarious….it is the magnitude. If God the Son was in the OT, it would appear all over the place. There would have been extra books about it…..It is just like those that think the prophets knew that the messiah would be a God. If so every prophet would be taking about it in every book. Could there be a more interesting topic. Here is you magnifying glass find your funny belief. If you have to comb the scriptures for your beliefs, give it up. That is how cults are formed.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
This statement is true…the Father is greater than I. One God in the Old Testament and no other. You shall have no other gods before me…In the New Testament the Apostles called Yahweh God and Yeshua Lord.
And Jesus also was not conceived as the result of physical impregnation.
Prove it!
Concerning Christ's humanity.
Jesus called the Father the Lord of heaven and earth (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21). But there is one Lord in holy scripture (Ephesians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 8:6). And no one can say that Jesus is the Lord except by the Spirit of truth (1 Corinthians 12:3).
See Matthew 1:20 and Luke 1:35.
It has been said that the Old Testament is the New Testament concealed; and that the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed.
Grailhunter
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These verses suggest normal sex.
Jesus called the Father the Lord of heaven and earth (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21). But there is one Lord in holy scripture (Ephesians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 8:6). And no one can say that Jesus is the Lord except by the Spirit of truth (1 Corinthians 12:3).
But yet they did.
Concerning Christ's humanity.
No wrong...He did the will of the father etc God Father is referred to an authoritative since in about 80 scriptures. The concept the concept! Not just two God! Father and Son!
Just because you are blind does not mean that reality does not exist. BTW you are wilfully blind, which is a greater problem for you than anyone else. Kindly read my post on the Problem of Wilful Blindness.
For those who are engaging with you, Christ made it very clear. The wilfully blind are to be left alone.
Grailhunter
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If you find a scripture with the word conceive, begot, begotten, or son....you are talking sex
Grailhunter
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Not necessarily.
You are implying that the Holy Ghost can have sex with a virgin physically. That is borderline blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.
You are walking on thin ice.
Are you literally ignoring everything I've been typing the last couple hours explaining things to you?
The Only Begotten Son of God.
*sigh*
LDS Christians believe in the Bible, including every word therein about Christ.
Christ only is the Only Begotten Son of God and Savior of the world.
There's no special relationship between Christ and Lucifer that doesn't apply to every other person. namely that the Father was/is the Father of all. Lucifer obviously rejected the Father and rebelled. Christ (the only Son of God), said "thy will be done". You and I get also choose whom each of will serve.
Could you two take discussion fo Grailhunter's beliefs somewhere else?
Please define what you really mean by this.
No; because it is clear that his beliefs are in accordance with what real Mormonism teaches; and it is to the Holy Spirit's advantage for everyone to see what that is in light of the fact that you are trying to hide from us the real doctrines of Mormonism.
Jesus Christ, Only Begotten Son
See also Jesus Christ, Divine Sonship
- only begotten of the Father … full of grace and truth, John 1:14.
- God … the only begotten Son … he hath declared him, John 1:18.
- God … gave his only begotten Son, John 3:16 (D&C 20:21).
- God sent his only begotten Son into the world, 1 Jn. 4:9 (D&C 49:5).
- day cometh that the Only Begotten of the Father … shall manifest himself, 2 Ne. 25:12 (Jacob 4:5; Alma 5:48; 9:26; D&C 76:23; 93:11; 138:14; Moses 5:9).
- be reconciled … through the atonement of Christ, his Only Begotten Son, Jacob 4:11 (Alma 13:5).
- then will I have mercy upon you, through mine Only Begotten Son, Alma 12:33 (D&C 29:46).
- high priests … after the order of … the Only Begotten of the Father, Alma 13:9 (D&C 76:57; 124:123).
- redemption, through faith on the name of mine Only Begotten Son, D&C 29:42 (Moses 1:17, 21; 4:1; 6:52; 7:50, 59).
- angel … who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son, D&C 76:25.
- having denied the Only Begotten Son, D&C 76:35.
- through the grace of God … and his Only Begotten Son, D&C 138:14.
- through the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son, D&C 138:57.
- Moses … thou art in the similitude of mine Only Begotten, Moses 1:6.
- by the word of my power, have I created them, which is mine Only Begotten Son, Moses 1:32 (1:6, 33; 2:1, 26; 3:18; 4:28).
- by mine Only Begotten I created these things, Moses 2:1.
- created man … in the image of mine Only Begotten, Moses 2:27.
- by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down, Moses 4:3.
- This thing is a similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten, Moses 5:7.
- they would not … believe on his Only Begotten Son, Moses 5:57.
- name of his Only Begotten is the Son of Man, Moses 6:57.
- cleansed by blood, even the blood of mine Only Begotten, Moses 6:59 (6:62).
- truth will I send forth out of the earth, to bear testimony of mine Only Begotten, Moses 7:62.
Grailhunter isn't an LDS Christian.
I've already cited a bunch of verses explaining LDS Christian beliefs here.
If Mormonism is in no way in contradiction to the teachings of the Bible, then reading its documents is unnecessary concerning finding the unadulterated truth. You can find it in the Bible.
If, however, the documents of Mormonism are necessary for us to read, then Mormonism is not a part of the faith that was once and for all delivered to the saints (Jude 1:3). Because it claims to have a greater truth than what is found in the Bible; and therefore the Bible is not enough if Mormonism be true. But the faith was delivered unto the saints by the time that Jude wrote his epistle, once, not twice.
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