Your same manner presented above is different. I can understand some minor variances.....but what you have presented is major variances that tell a whole different story.
Actually Jesus returns twice...
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It's not what is stated in Acts 1:11, at least. It only says He will descend from heaven in like manner as He ascended there, which was visibly and bodily. That says nothing about where He is going after descending from heaven. According to Paul, we will meet Him "in the air" (1 Thess 4:14-17), but it doesn't say where we go from there. Any time someone says we then go to heaven or are then taken to the earth, I ask what is the point of meeting Him in the air in that case and no one can give a convincing answer to that question. In my view, it's because He then takes vengeance on all unbelievers on the earth at that point and He even burns up the earth (2 Peter 3:10-12). So, it makes sense that we would meet Him in the air in that case rather than in heaven or on earth.
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51 While He was blessing them, He left them and was carried up into heaven.
19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.
In Jesus Father house is many dwellings...Jesus said I have to go....and will come back and take you there.
You made a strange statement...just what was your question????
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That's not what He said. He did not say He would take us there. He said He was preparing a place for us so that where He is there we would be also. If He was going to take us to heaven, then why meet Him in the air? Why not just meet Him in heaven instead? It says we will be with Him forever after we meet Him in the air and says nothing about us then being taken to heaven. He will bring heaven to us.
There was nothing strange about it at all. Tell me why we will meet Him in the air if we are going to heaven? Your view has Jesus descending from heaven and then turning around and going back there. Why? Why not just meet Him in heaven if that is where we were going?
Jesus ascended from the mount of Olives in Acts 1.
In Zechariah 14, Jesus returns to stand on the mount of Olives, splitting it in half.
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No, he ascended from a town calked Bethany.
Luk 24:50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.
Luk 24:51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
Luk 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy :
Here we see that they went to Bethany and he ascended there, which is a mile from the Mount of Olives and about 2 miles from Jerusalem. They left Bethany and returned to Jerusalem having to cross the Mt of Olives on their way back. See the map provided.
Christ ascended in Bethany, then the disciples went back to Jerusalem via the Mt of Olives which is a Sabbath's journey from the Mount to Jerusalem. They traveled further than that because Bethany (it's one and only location) is on the other side of the Mt and past it's base just as Jerusalem is on that other side.
Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Act 1:12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
Acts only makes it seem like the ascension was on the Mount but it doesn't say that. It only mentions their return journey from the Mount to Jerusalem but doesn't bother to mention Bethany.
Mar 11:1 And when they came nigh to Jerusalem, unto Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount of Olives, he sendeth forth two of his disciples,
Bethany is "at the Mount" just as it can be said that Jerusalem is at the Mount. That simply means near not on the Mount. Neither Jerusalem nor Bethany are actually on any part of the Mount. Both are about a mile away from the it.
Joh_11:18 Now Bethany was nigh unto Jerusalem, about fifteen furlongs off:
15 furlongs is two miles just as the map shows with the Mount of Olives in the middle between cities. It's just one of those mistaken traditions that are so common that says Jesus ascended from the Mount.
I'm simply telling you what the bible and Jesus said. If you can't make sense out of it really isn't my problem.
Who knows????
Back then a Jewish wedding had the groom going to his fathers house and building a room for him and his bride to live in.
At some point the father told the groom to go get his bride. He left, and when he got to the city or village the groomsmen went to the brides house, got her, and brought her to the groom...the groom then took his bride back to the room he had build where his father was and they had the wedding.
Apparently turning around and going back was normal. As I said if you can't make sense of it....oh well.
Bethany is a significant village in the New Testament, located on the eastern slope of the Mount of Olives, approximately two miles from Jerusalem.....reference
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You are the one not making sense of it. You believe in the false pre-trib rapture theory that you cannot support with scripture.
Who knows? That sums up your pre-trib rapture belief. Who knows why anyone would believe in it.
Nowhere is Christ's return compared to a Jewish wedding, so all of that is pointless. What I can't make sense of is your pre-trib rapture theory. Jesus very clearly indicated that the rapture will occur "immediately after the tribulation of those days" (Matthew 24:29-31, Mark 13:14-20). You believe that the rapture will occur when Jesus comes unexpectedly as a thief in the night, right? Well, 2 Peter 3:10-12 says the earth will be burned up when that happens, so that refutes your pretrib belief as well because you think that people will continue living during a 7 year time period of tribulation at that point when scripture says that unbelievers will all be killed at that point.
as far as to Bethany - but not entering Bethany. From Jerusalem toward Bethany, and departing on the mount of Olives.
If Jesus departed within the town of Bethany, others than the disciples would have witnesses His departure.
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No, it means they went to Bethany.
Doesn't matter. Scripture says he ascended from Bethany. It's very close to the Mount so for those that believe he returns to that Mount, it's essentially the same.
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