Amillennialism, What it is DESIGNED by the Devil To PRODUCE

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Ever hear of the "New World Order" folks? Or "one world government"?

What about the Revelation 13:1 beast kingdom that comes up out of the "sea", that is to have ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns? You've heard of that for the end of this world, right?

Even though the false doctrine of Amillennialism began in the 2nd century A.D. when pagan Gnosticism began creeping into the Christian Church, that doesn't mean it is a Biblical doctrine just because of being that old. The pagan Gnostics still exist to this day, and they have not changed their plan for world takeover in prep for the one they... worship, Lucifer.

These people who follow today's Gnosticism are associated with the Occult secret societies. One can basically put all the pagan secret societies into one boat; they all worship Lucifer, even secret fraternities that have strong Christian memberships at their lower levels of what they call the Lesser Mysteries. The high level members know who they worship, the devil, and they are preparing the whole world for his coming to take reign over all this earth at the end.

That is why even the deceived on their doctrines of Amillennialism are so fervent in supporting it even when it goes directly against the written Bible Scriptures. It has been around so long that the deceived have gotten attached to it like a thick vine grown from a Jack and the Beanstalk type bean.

This is why Amillennialism tries to convince the gullible that the Revelation 20 "thousand years" about Christ's future reign isn't literal, but symbolic only; even though that "thousand years" reign by Christ and His elect for the future AFTER His return is well defined in plenty of Bible Scriptures, including in the Old Testament prophets.

Those Gnostics behind the theory of Amillennialism want to destroy that "thousand years" reign by Christ Jesus. And don't be fooled brethren in Christ by those deceived brethren on that Amill doctrine that claim it is Biblical just because it goes back to the 2nd century A.D. That 'something is true because it is the oldest' ploy has been attempted with pushing newer Bible translations from older claimed Bible manuscripts too, when there is little actual proof. New and Improved doesn't work with God's Truth in His Word.

Think about the building of the first city by Cain in the "land of Nod" where Cain took his wife. The only most ancient creation account other than given Moses in the Book of Genesis is found in the Babylonian cuneiform clay tablets. And those tablets report of a history going back further with the ancient Sumerians in that area before it became known as Babylon.

I believe that is where Cain went to, and was the actual "land of Nod" mentioned in Genesis 4 where Cain built the very first city. Per the ancient Sumer history written in the tablets, that would fit the one they called Sargon I. Sargon was of Semitic origin per their history, and he began the very first IDOL worship of earth history. That is where ancient Baal worship began, in ancient Sumer. Why do I mention this?

It is because during the time of king David and his Solomon, with the building of the city of David, and Solomon's temple, pagan workers in stone and metals were gotten from king Hiram of Tyre, a pagan Phoenician that was friends with king David. The children of Israel did not have the expertise in stone and metal working, so David and Hiram traded workers. Other than the pagan Canaanites which Israel was not able to destroy per God's command, these workers from Tyre were pagans that also crept in among the children of Israel. And many of them became religious Jews that have been planted among the Jews for so long, that it is impossible to distinguish who they are today, and thus Christ's parable to the tares in Matthew 13.

One of the ideas that came out of ancient pagan Babylon was the so-called 'Mysteries', also known as 'mystery schools'. In ancient Babylon the priesthood there controlled entry in among them through initiation by certain rituals, and then a probationary period. Then the Mysteries would be revealed to them. What those Mysteries were and are about involve the Occult, things God told us to not mess with per His laws. Yet today's secret societies are still practicing all those ancient Mysteries from the devil.

Because the theory of Amillennialism converts certain Biblical texts meant literally instead as being symbolic, that is a concerted and vain attempt to change what God's Word actually teaches. That kind of movement of interpreting The Bible mostly as allegory was one of the problems the Christian school at Alexandria, Egypt had. Origen and Clement both got in trouble for it.

Amill says Christ's "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20 is only SYMBOLIC, and not LITERAL. Thus they also deny Old Testament Scripture like Zechariah 14 which is about Christ's future 2nd coming back to Jerusalem and His future reign with His elect over all nations, including the unsaved nations. They also deny references to Christ's future reign over the wicked as described by Apostle Paul. Amill instead wrongly believes that at Christ's future return, all the wicked are then immediately destroyed, and right then we go into God's new heavens and a new earth time. They simply skip any Bible reference of the wicked still existing after Christ's future return.

And then, Amill makes TODAY, our PRESENT DAY, special, in the sense that Lord Jesus is REIGNING NOW! and that His Kingdom has come today! And that even though all the wickedness is still going on in this world. It's a theory of a madman! But hey, it serves the Occultists well, because Lucifer has always wanted to be God, and worshiped in place of God. That was his original sin by the way, coveting God's Throne for himself, wanting to be God. No matter that Lucifer and his followers can setup a fake world kingdom with wickedness still going on in it.
 
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Ever hear of the "New World Order" folks? Or "one world government"?

What about the Revelation 13:1 beast kingdom that comes up out of the "sea", that is to have ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns? You've heard of that for the end of this world, right?

Even though the false doctrine of Amillennialism began in the 2nd century A.D. when pagan Gnosticism began creeping into the Christian Church, that doesn't mean it is a Biblical doctrine just because of being that old. The pagan Gnostics still exist to this day, and they have not changed their plan for world takeover in prep for the one they... worship, Lucifer.

These people who follow today's Gnosticism are associated with the Occult secret societies. One can basically put all the pagan secret societies into one boat; they all worship Lucifer, even secret fraternities that have strong Christian memberships at their lower levels of what they call the Lesser Mysteries. The high level members know who they worship, the devil, and they are preparing the whole world for his coming to take reign over all this earth at the end.

That is why even the deceived on their doctrines of Amillennialism are so fervent in supporting it even when it goes directly against the written Bible Scriptures. It has been around so long that the deceived have gotten attached to it like a thick vine grown from a Jack and the Beanstalk type bean.

This is why Amillennialism tries to convince the gullible that the Revelation 20 "thousand years" about Christ's future reign isn't literal, but symbolic only; even though that "thousand years" reign by Christ and His elect for the future AFTER His return is well defined in plenty of Bible Scriptures, including in the Old Testament prophets.

Those Gnostics behind the theory of Amillennialism want to destroy that "thousand years" reign by Christ Jesus. And don't be fooled brethren in Christ by those deceived brethren on that Amill doctrine that claim it is Biblical just because it goes back to the 2nd century A.D. That 'something is true because it is the oldest' ploy has been attempted with pushing newer Bible translations from older claimed Bible manuscripts too, when there is little actual proof. New and Improved doesn't work with God's Truth in His Word.

Think about the building of the first city by Cain in the "land of Nod" where Cain took his wife. The only most ancient creation account other than given Moses in the Book of Genesis is found in the Babylonian cuneiform clay tablets. And those tablets report of a history going back further with the ancient Sumerians in that area before it became known as Babylon.

I believe that is where Cain went to, and was the actual "land of Nod" mentioned in Genesis 4 where Cain built the very first city. Per the ancient Sumer history written in the tablets, that would fit the one they called Sargon I. Sargon was of Semitic origin per their history, and he began the very first IDOL worship of earth history. That is where ancient Baal worship began, in ancient Sumer. Why do I mention this?

It is because during the time of king David and his Solomon, with the building of the city of David, and Solomon's temple, pagan workers in stone and metals were gotten from king Hiram of Tyre, a pagan Phoenician that was friends with king David. The children of Israel did not have the expertise in stone and metal working, so David and Hiram traded workers. Other than the pagan Canaanites which Israel was not able to destroy per God's command, these workers from Tyre were pagans that also crept in among the children of Israel. And many of them became religious Jews that have been planted among the Jews for so long, that it is impossible to distinguish who they are today, and thus Christ's parable to the tares in Matthew 13.

One of the ideas that came out of ancient pagan Babylon was the so-called 'Mysteries', also known as 'mystery schools'. In ancient Babylon the priesthood there controlled entry in among them through initiation by certain rituals, and then a probationary period. Then the Mysteries would be revealed to them. What those Mysteries were and are about involve the Occult, things God told us to not mess with per His laws. Yet today's secret societies are still practicing all those ancient Mysteries from the devil.

Because the theory of Amillennialism converts certain Biblical texts meant literally instead as being symbolic, that is a concerted and vain attempt to change what God's Word actually teaches. That kind of movement of interpreting The Bible mostly as allegory was one of the problems the Christian school at Alexandria, Egypt had. Origen and Clement both got in trouble for it.

Amill says Christ's "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20 is only SYMBOLIC, and not LITERAL. Thus they also deny Old Testament Scripture like Zechariah 14 which is about Christ's future 2nd coming back to Jerusalem and His future reign with His elect over all nations, including the unsaved nations. They also deny references to Christ's future reign over the wicked as described by Apostle Paul. Amill instead wrongly believes that at Christ's future return, all the wicked are then immediately destroyed, and right then we go into God's new heavens and a new earth time. They simply skip any Bible reference of the wicked still existing after Christ's future return.

And then, Amill makes TODAY, our PRESENT DAY, special, in the sense that Lord Jesus is REIGNING NOW! and that His Kingdom has come today! And that even though all the wickedness is still going on in this world. It's a theory of a madman! But hey, it serves the Occultists well, because Lucifer has always wanted to be God, and worshiped in place of God. That was his original sin by the way, coveting God's Throne for himself, wanting to be God. No matter that Lucifer and his followers can setup a fake world kingdom with wickedness still going on in it.
It's very ironic for a madman like you to accuse the Amill doctrine of being "a theory of a madman".

Foolish madmen like you try to accuse Amills of supposedly making literal texts symbolic. Amillennialism is founded on literal scripture, so these accusations are foolish and inappropriate.

Amillennialists base our doctrine on clear, straightforward scriptures and we use that foundation to help understand more difficult and debatable scriptures such as those found in highly symbolic books like Daniel, Zechariah, Isaiah and Revelation.

Our belief that Christ is reigning now and since His resurrection is based on literal, explicit scripture like Matthew 28:16-18, Ephesians 1:19-23, Colossians 1:12-13 and Revelation 1:5-6.

Our belief that Satan was bound by Christ and the subsequent powerful preaching of His gospel is based on straightforward scripture like Matthew 12:28-29, Hebrews 2:14-15, 1 John 3:8 and Acts 26:18.

Our belief that all unbelievers will be killed when Christ returns (leaving no mortals to populate the earth) is based on straightforward scripture like Matthew 24:35-39, Luke 17:26-37, 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:10-12 and Revelation 19:17-18.

Our belief that all of the dead, saved and lost, will be resurrected in the same hour is based on straightforward scriptures like John 5:28-29, Daniel 12:2 and Acts 24:15.

Our belief that all people, saved and lost, will be judged at the same time is based on what is clearly indicated in passages like Matthew 13:36-43, Matthew 13:47-50 and Matthew 25:31-46.

Some Amils, like myself, base our belief that the first resurrection itself is Christ's resurrection (which then means that having part in the first resurrection is to have part in His resurrection) on straightforward scripture like Acts 26:23 and 1 Corinthians 15:20.

We interpret any given verse or passage in context according to the type of text being used (literal, figurative, allegorical, metaphorical, symbolic, poetic, hyperbolic, Apocalyptic) without making any assumptions one way or another ahead of time about what type of text it is (no assumptions that any given text is allegorical or literal).

You are unable to refute Amillennialism with scripture, so you resort to false accusations instead and make it out as if we are occultists rather than the Christians who love and serve our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, that we are.
 
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You are unable to refute Amillennialism with scripture, so you resort to false accusations instead and make it out as if we are occultists rather than the Christians who love and serve our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, that we are.

Maybe in your case it's an example of you shall reap what you sow?


For example, JWs. I get the impression that you see all JWs like this---are occultists. And because of that you see none of them like this---Christians who love and serve our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,

And if so, what if God, the one who knows the hearts of men, do see some JWs like this---Christians who love and serve their great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. What then? Who is judging fairly in this case? You or God?

There are numerous doctrines I don't agree with JWs about, but I would never go so far to say that this---Christians who love and serve our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ--is applicable to none of them. That's not for me to decide. That's for God to decide.

For example. I don't agree with JWs that Jesus is not God. So what if they don't believe He is? What does that have to do with salvation? Where does it say anywhere in the Bible that unless one believes Jesus is God, that person can't be saved? I wonder if the thief on the cross that Jesus said would be with Him in paradise, believed that He was God? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. And if the latter, there you go then, it is not mandatory in order to be saved, to believe that Jesus is God in order to be saved.
 
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Maybe in your case it's an example of you shall reap what you sow?
What are you talking about?

For example, JWs. I get the impression that you see all JWs like this---are occultists. And because of that you see none of them like this---Christians who love and serve our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,
Yes. So?

And if so, what if God, the one who knows the hearts of men, do see some JWs like this---Christians who love and serve their great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. What then? Who is judging fairly in this case? You or God?
Scripture does not teach that we can't know if someone else is a Christian or not. Jesus said you know them by their fruits. Do you think He was just making that up? Do you think someone can be a Christian who denies His deity and claims that one's physical death pays for their sins rather than the blood of Christ paying for their sins? Are you being serious right now? Are you trying to compare that to what Amills believe, as if there's no difference?

There are numerous doctrines I don't agree with JWs about, but I would never go so far to say that this---Christians who love and serve our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ--is applicable to none of them. That's not for me to decide. That's for God to decide.
Jesus is the Judge (John 5:22), but that doesn't mean we have no discernment about people. I can say what I think is the case about JWs, but I will let Jesus be the Judge of them. But, since I see it the way I do, I'm not going to talk to them as fellow Christians, but instead I'm going to try to show them who Jesus really is so that they can be saved. I'm willing to take my chances on being wrong about that since I believe the chances of that are very slim.

For example. I don't agree with JWs that Jesus is not God. So what if they don't believe He is? What does that have to do with salvation?
It has a lot to do with it! Wow, you are so unbelievably lacking in discernment. Did you not read my post where I showed you what it means to acknowledge that Jesus is Lord and that one must believe He is Lord in order to be saved?

Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” 14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” 16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?

In this passage, every reference to the Lord is translated from the Greek word kyrios, which most of the time in scripture is used to refer to God. In verse 16 the word is used to refer to Jesus and it is referencing Isaiah 53:1, where the word "Lord" is translated from the Hebrew word Yᵊhōvâ (Jehovah) which obviously refers to God. So, to declare that Jesus is Lord is to declare that He is your God and your master. And it says that one must confess that Jesus is Lord in order to be saved. So, what does that have to do with salvation? It has a lot to do with salvation. Believing in Jesus involves believing in who He is and trusting in Him alone for salvation. It involves submitting to Him as your Lord and your God. Also, scripture repeatedly teaches that Jesus is God, so why would anyone claim to be a Christian and deny what scripture clearly teaches about Jesus? That doesn't add up.

Where does it say anywhere in the Bible that unless one believes Jesus is God, that person can't be saved? I wonder if the thief on the cross that Jesus said would be with Him in paradise, believed that He was God? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
I'm sure he did. I don't believe any Christian does not believe that and understand that. Scripture makes that clear that He is God and confessing that He is Lord means you are confessing that he is your God. I'm just amazing that you don't even understand that.

And if the latter, there you go then, it is not mandatory in order to be saved, to believe that Jesus is God in order to be saved.
It is. Why would someone deny who He is and still think that they belong to Him and have a personal relationship with Him? That makes no sense. Your lack of discernment regarding this is truly unbelievable.
 

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Ever hear of the "New World Order" folks? Or "one world government"?

What about the Revelation 13:1 beast kingdom that comes up out of the "sea", that is to have ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns? You've heard of that for the end of this world, right?

Even though the false doctrine of Amillennialism began in the 2nd century A.D. when pagan Gnosticism began creeping into the Christian Church, that doesn't mean it is a Biblical doctrine just because of being that old. The pagan Gnostics still exist to this day, and they have not changed their plan for world takeover in prep for the one they... worship, Lucifer.

These people who follow today's Gnosticism are associated with the Occult secret societies. One can basically put all the pagan secret societies into one boat; they all worship Lucifer, even secret fraternities that have strong Christian memberships at their lower levels of what they call the Lesser Mysteries. The high level members know who they worship, the devil, and they are preparing the whole world for his coming to take reign over all this earth at the end.

That is why even the deceived on their doctrines of Amillennialism are so fervent in supporting it even when it goes directly against the written Bible Scriptures. It has been around so long that the deceived have gotten attached to it like a thick vine grown from a Jack and the Beanstalk type bean.

This is why Amillennialism tries to convince the gullible that the Revelation 20 "thousand years" about Christ's future reign isn't literal, but symbolic only; even though that "thousand years" reign by Christ and His elect for the future AFTER His return is well defined in plenty of Bible Scriptures, including in the Old Testament prophets.

Those Gnostics behind the theory of Amillennialism want to destroy that "thousand years" reign by Christ Jesus. And don't be fooled brethren in Christ by those deceived brethren on that Amill doctrine that claim it is Biblical just because it goes back to the 2nd century A.D. That 'something is true because it is the oldest' ploy has been attempted with pushing newer Bible translations from older claimed Bible manuscripts too, when there is little actual proof. New and Improved doesn't work with God's Truth in His Word.

Think about the building of the first city by Cain in the "land of Nod" where Cain took his wife. The only most ancient creation account other than given Moses in the Book of Genesis is found in the Babylonian cuneiform clay tablets. And those tablets report of a history going back further with the ancient Sumerians in that area before it became known as Babylon.

I believe that is where Cain went to, and was the actual "land of Nod" mentioned in Genesis 4 where Cain built the very first city. Per the ancient Sumer history written in the tablets, that would fit the one they called Sargon I. Sargon was of Semitic origin per their history, and he began the very first IDOL worship of earth history. That is where ancient Baal worship began, in ancient Sumer. Why do I mention this?

It is because during the time of king David and his Solomon, with the building of the city of David, and Solomon's temple, pagan workers in stone and metals were gotten from king Hiram of Tyre, a pagan Phoenician that was friends with king David. The children of Israel did not have the expertise in stone and metal working, so David and Hiram traded workers. Other than the pagan Canaanites which Israel was not able to destroy per God's command, these workers from Tyre were pagans that also crept in among the children of Israel. And many of them became religious Jews that have been planted among the Jews for so long, that it is impossible to distinguish who they are today, and thus Christ's parable to the tares in Matthew 13.

One of the ideas that came out of ancient pagan Babylon was the so-called 'Mysteries', also known as 'mystery schools'. In ancient Babylon the priesthood there controlled entry in among them through initiation by certain rituals, and then a probationary period. Then the Mysteries would be revealed to them. What those Mysteries were and are about involve the Occult, things God told us to not mess with per His laws. Yet today's secret societies are still practicing all those ancient Mysteries from the devil.

Because the theory of Amillennialism converts certain Biblical texts meant literally instead as being symbolic, that is a concerted and vain attempt to change what God's Word actually teaches. That kind of movement of interpreting The Bible mostly as allegory was one of the problems the Christian school at Alexandria, Egypt had. Origen and Clement both got in trouble for it.

You spread willful lies and deceit! You are incapable of containing your bitterness against Amils.

Premils are quick to throw the Gnostic slur at Amils. But, it may shock Premillennialists to know that many of the views they hold and promote today were sourced and spread in antiquity chiefly among heretics. When we look for the originators and formulators of modern-day Premillennialism we actually arrive at four shadowy early figures. The first two operated at the very infancy of early Church history – Cerinthus of Asia Minor (AD 50-100) and Marcion of Sinope, Asia Minor (Born: AD 85, Died: AD 160). Both of these were viewed as arch-heretics and were strongly resisted by the early Church fathers for their corrupt perversion of Christianity. They invented a dual-covenant concept of two parallel yet coexisting peoples of God, under two different agreements, serving two different gods, with two different time-tables and two different ultimate outcomes. This was seasoned throughout with Gnostic elements.

The later advocates of ancient Premillennialism who ran with, and widely promoted, it were Porphyry [or Porphyrius] of Tyre (AD 232- 305) and Apollinarius of Laodicea, Asia Minor (died AD 382). They took up the baton were Cerinthus and Marcion left off. Not surprisingly, these two unorthodox writers were condemned by the ancient orthodox fathers as heretics and blasphemers.

They all strongly believed God has two distinct peoples, with distinct purposes for each. Even those who reject Christ were considered as the “people of God.” They believed that the Church operates under new covenant promises and natural ethnic Israel operates under a covenant promises. They held that the Mosaic covenant remains valid for the Jews while the new covenant only applies to the New Testament Church. They considered Israel to be God’s earthly people, and the New Testament Church to be God’s heavenly people.

Like the Pharisees, the early Premillennialism heretics had a hyper-literal earthly expectation of a coming earthly kingdom, believing that the Old Testament kingdom promises would be fulfilled by ethnic Israel coming to prominence there. They repudiating a spiritual interpretation of many passages. They believed Israel’s old covenant theocracy would return and she would be restored to her ancient land boundaries. They rejected a heavenly hope for Israel. They promoted the rebuilding of the old abolished covenant infrastructure, including the recommencement of the old covenant priests, customs, rituals and blood sacrifices.

What set these 4 men apart from the orthodox Chiliasts was not their opinion of a future millennial earth, no, it was their elevation of the nation Israel in a future millennium, their two-peoples-of-God-theory (including a clear discontinuity between Israel and the Church), their belief that Christ-rejecting Jews were still God’s chosen people, that Israel would be restored to her ancient boundaries, their advocacy for the renewal of all the old covenant feasts and festivals, a return of blood sin offerings in a future temple (whether real or memorial) and their support for the restarting of the old covenant priesthood on a future millennial earth.

While these are beliefs that are widely held within Premillennialist circles today, they were unknown to the early orthodox Church Chiliasts. Along with the reintroduction of all the bondage of corruption on a future earth (including sin, death and decay) and the rising up of Satan after 1000 to influence billions of millennial inhabitants against Christ and the glorified saints, this advocacy for the return of all the old covenant apparatus is probably the most unsavory aspect of modern Premillennialism.
 
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Maybe in your case it's an example of you shall reap what you sow?


For example, JWs. I get the impression that you see all JWs like this---are occultists. And because of that you see none of them like this---Christians who love and serve our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,

And if so, what if God, the one who knows the hearts of men, do see some JWs like this---Christians who love and serve their great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. What then? Who is judging fairly in this case? You or God?

There are numerous doctrines I don't agree with JWs about, but I would never go so far to say that this---Christians who love and serve our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ--is applicable to none of them. That's not for me to decide. That's for God to decide.

For example. I don't agree with JWs that Jesus is not God. So what if they don't believe He is? What does that have to do with salvation? Where does it say anywhere in the Bible that unless one believes Jesus is God, that person can't be saved? I wonder if the thief on the cross that Jesus said would be with Him in paradise, believed that He was God? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. And if the latter, there you go then, it is not mandatory in order to be saved, to believe that Jesus is God in order to be saved.
Wow! I am no longer shocked at the nonsense that Premils promote. Just because the JWs are fellow Premils they are now followers of Christ. No! They are heretics.
 

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Amill says Christ's "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20 is only SYMBOLIC, and not LITERAL. Thus they also deny Old Testament Scripture like Zechariah 14 which is about Christ's future 2nd coming back to Jerusalem and His future reign with His elect over all nations, including the unsaved nations. They also deny references to Christ's future reign over the wicked as described by Apostle Paul. Amill instead wrongly believes that at Christ's future return, all the wicked are then immediately destroyed, and right then we go into God's new heavens and a new earth time. They simply skip any Bible reference of the wicked still existing after Christ's future return.
This shows the absurdity of your doctrine. It is nonsensical. You cannot even discern between figurative and literal language. That is obviously why you are a Premil.

The term "a thousand" is used in most languages in a general figurative sense to represent a large number or a large indefinite period. Certain common numbers are frequently used in Scripture as valuable symbols to represent particular divine truths or ideas; a thousand and ten thousand are two such numbers. They are employed as familiar figures to impress deep spiritual principles in a distinctly comprehendible and identifiable way. It is not necessarily the exact numerical size of the figure outlined that is important but the spiritual idea that it represents. In fact, English dictionaries recognize the indefinite nature of a thousand defining it variously as a very large number or a great number or amount. This use is very common in our daily language.

One and a thousand are brought together in a metaphorical sense in Psalm 84:9-10 to represent a similar illustrative thought as that of Deuteronomy 32:30. Using a comparable idea, although applying it to a specific measure of time, we learn, “Behold, O God our shield, and look upon the face of thine anointed. For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand. I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness.”

Comparing ‘one’ to ‘a thousand’ is common in Scripture; however, it is not simply a concept that is narrowly restricted to the subject of time, or exact time at that. This figurative statement in essence asserts that a day in the Lord’s presence is more blessed than untold ordinary ones outside of such. It in no way indicates that one (twenty-four hour) day in God’s presence exactly represents one thousand days elsewhere, such a limit would be an unfair restriction upon the meaning intended. Such a literal interpretation is at clear variance with the undoubted general usage of the phrase in Scripture and the specific import of the reading under analysis.

The figure a thousand is also employed in Psalm 50:10-11 to denote the greatness of God’s providence, saying, “For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine.”

Does Christ only own the cattle on one thousand hills or does he own them all? Of course there is no way that this passage suggests that Christ only owns the cattle on one thousand hills. Rather, He owns every beast on every hill, thus revealing His omnipotence. The statement reference the “thousand hills” is preceded y the introductory comment: “For every beast of the forest is mine.” This is simply presented in such a way as to express the unfathomable authority and power of the living God. It beautifully correlates with the truth expressed in 1 Corinthians 10:28, which states, “the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof.”

The term “a thousand” is thus used to in some way express the nature and awesome power of Almighty God. The phrase is used to portray the Sovereignty of God and His supreme kingship over all creation. We must clearly acknowledge that the figure ‘a thousand’ is consistently and symbolically employed, throughout the Word of God, to denote an unfathomable amount or a vast period.

Even the figurative every-day statement ‘one in a thousand’ has emanated from the fountainhead of Scripture. It is found in Ecclesiastes 7:27-28 where Solomon laments, “one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found. Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.”

Solomon laments over the fact that he barely found any upright man in his travels. They were the exception rather than the rule. The thought here intended is that the man under consideration is of a particular choice character, being, as it where, the pick-of-the-bunch. The usage of the numbers one and a thousand is thus employed to represent a particular truth rather than specifically describing an accurate numerical equation.

In the same vein, Job 33:23 declares, “If there be a messenger with him, an interpreter, one among a thousand, to shew unto man his uprightness.” The same two common numbers are used here in the form of a contrast to simply portray the picture of a special vessel. Again, it is not the numbers that are important but the idea they represent.

As we have already discovered in our studies, the same kind of function is repeatedly afforded to the use of the term ‘ten thousand’ as is ‘a thousand’ in Scripture. It is often used in the same context and in the same way as a symbol to represent an immense figure. Thus, the Song of Solomon 5:10 declares, “My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.”

Ten thousand is here used to, in some way, portray the deep-rooted emotions that a man feels towards his sweetheart. The usage of the number ‘ten thousand’ thus indicates the idea of the deep affection of the man rather than specifically describing an exact numerical computation.

The same idea is presented in 2 Samuel 18:2-3 where David is seen preparing for battle. He tells the people, “I will surely go forth with you myself also.” To which the people responded, “Thou shalt not go forth: for if we flee away, they will not care for us; neither if half of us die, will they care for us: but now thou art worth ten thousand of us: therefore now it is better that thou succour us out of the city.”

Jesus employs the number ten thousand as a general figure in Luke 14:31 to relate the necessity of wisdom, asking, “what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with TWENTY THOUSAND?”

The distinct contrast between one and a thousand is again found in Job 9:2-3, where Job declares, “I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God? If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand.”

This passage is contrasting the infinite knowledge of God to the finite knowledge of God. This language is stating the enormous depth of God's understanding rather than limiting God to the capacity to only answer a thousand questions.

The same idea is intended in Isaiah 60:21-22, where the prophet instructs, in relation to the New Earth, “Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the Lord will hasten it in his time.”

This passage is expressed in such a manner to in some way describe the great standing, wealth and supernatural power that is found in them that are God’s. God magnifies them in such a manner that the world cannot remotely comprehend. The expressions thus indicate magnitude:

A little one = a thousand
 
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And then, Amill makes TODAY, our PRESENT DAY, special, in the sense that Lord Jesus is REIGNING NOW! and that His Kingdom has come today! And that even though all the wickedness is still going on in this world. It's a theory of a madman! But hey, it serves the Occultists well, because Lucifer has always wanted to be God, and worshiped in place of God. That was his original sin by the way, coveting God's Throne for himself, wanting to be God. No matter that Lucifer and his followers can setup a fake world kingdom with wickedness still going on in it.
  1. Do you believe that Jesus currently possesses “All power [Gr. exousia or authority] … in heaven and in earth” (Matthew 28:18)?
  2. Do you believe that “All things that the Father hath are” Christ’s (John 16:15)?
  3. Do you believe that the Father has indeed given Jesus “power over all flesh” (John 17:2)?
  4. Do you believe that “All things are delivered” unto Jesus of His “Father” (Matthew 11:27 and that He has “given all things into his (Christ’s) hand” (John 3:35 and John 13:3)?
  5. Do you believe that the Father has given Jesus “authority to execute judgment … because he is the Son of man” (John 5:26-27)?
  6. Do you believe that the Father has given Jesus “authority to execute judgment … because he is the Son of man” (John 5:26-27)?
  7. Do you believe that Christ “is the head of all principality and power” (Colossians 2:10)?
  8. Do you believe that “angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him” (1 Peter 3:22 says)?
  9. Do you believe that Christ is indeed "the archon (or ruler) of the kings of the earth" (Revelation 1:5)?
  10. When does Christ reign? After His enemies are subdued or until His enemies are subdued (1 Corinthians 15:25-28)?
  11. 1 Corinthians 15:25-28 and Ephesians 1:20-23 tells us that Christ “hath put (aorist active indicative) all things under his feet” and Hebrews 1:8 tells us that “thou hast put all things in subjection’ (aorist active indicative) under his feet.” How could anyone therefore deny He is sovereignly reigning over His enemies now? How could anyone then relate this fulfilment to an alleged future age after the second coming?
  12. Do you believe that Christ has become "the ruler of God’s creation" (Revelation 3:14)?
  13. Do you believe that Jesus has already "spoiled principalities and powers ... made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it (the cross)" (Colossians 2:15)?
  14. Do you believe that Christ currently “openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth" (Revelation 3:7)?
 

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Amillennialism denies the words of God in Genesis and Revelation concerning a literal 1,000 Year Reign
 

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Ever hear of the "New World Order" folks? Or "one world government"?

What about the Revelation 13:1 beast kingdom that comes up out of the "sea", that is to have ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns? You've heard of that for the end of this world, right?

Even though the false doctrine of Amillennialism began in the 2nd century A.D. when pagan Gnosticism began creeping into the Christian Church, that doesn't mean it is a Biblical doctrine just because of being that old. The pagan Gnostics still exist to this day, and they have not changed their plan for world takeover in prep for the one they... worship, Lucifer.

These people who follow today's Gnosticism are associated with the Occult secret societies. One can basically put all the pagan secret societies into one boat; they all worship Lucifer, even secret fraternities that have strong Christian memberships at their lower levels of what they call the Lesser Mysteries. The high level members know who they worship, the devil, and they are preparing the whole world for his coming to take reign over all this earth at the end.

That is why even the deceived on their doctrines of Amillennialism are so fervent in supporting it even when it goes directly against the written Bible Scriptures. It has been around so long that the deceived have gotten attached to it like a thick vine grown from a Jack and the Beanstalk type bean.

This is why Amillennialism tries to convince the gullible that the Revelation 20 "thousand years" about Christ's future reign isn't literal, but symbolic only; even though that "thousand years" reign by Christ and His elect for the future AFTER His return is well defined in plenty of Bible Scriptures, including in the Old Testament prophets.

Those Gnostics behind the theory of Amillennialism want to destroy that "thousand years" reign by Christ Jesus. And don't be fooled brethren in Christ by those deceived brethren on that Amill doctrine that claim it is Biblical just because it goes back to the 2nd century A.D. That 'something is true because it is the oldest' ploy has been attempted with pushing newer Bible translations from older claimed Bible manuscripts too, when there is little actual proof. New and Improved doesn't work with God's Truth in His Word.

Think about the building of the first city by Cain in the "land of Nod" where Cain took his wife. The only most ancient creation account other than given Moses in the Book of Genesis is found in the Babylonian cuneiform clay tablets. And those tablets report of a history going back further with the ancient Sumerians in that area before it became known as Babylon.

I believe that is where Cain went to, and was the actual "land of Nod" mentioned in Genesis 4 where Cain built the very first city. Per the ancient Sumer history written in the tablets, that would fit the one they called Sargon I. Sargon was of Semitic origin per their history, and he began the very first IDOL worship of earth history. That is where ancient Baal worship began, in ancient Sumer. Why do I mention this?

It is because during the time of king David and his Solomon, with the building of the city of David, and Solomon's temple, pagan workers in stone and metals were gotten from king Hiram of Tyre, a pagan Phoenician that was friends with king David. The children of Israel did not have the expertise in stone and metal working, so David and Hiram traded workers. Other than the pagan Canaanites which Israel was not able to destroy per God's command, these workers from Tyre were pagans that also crept in among the children of Israel. And many of them became religious Jews that have been planted among the Jews for so long, that it is impossible to distinguish who they are today, and thus Christ's parable to the tares in Matthew 13.

One of the ideas that came out of ancient pagan Babylon was the so-called 'Mysteries', also known as 'mystery schools'. In ancient Babylon the priesthood there controlled entry in among them through initiation by certain rituals, and then a probationary period. Then the Mysteries would be revealed to them. What those Mysteries were and are about involve the Occult, things God told us to not mess with per His laws. Yet today's secret societies are still practicing all those ancient Mysteries from the devil.

Because the theory of Amillennialism converts certain Biblical texts meant literally instead as being symbolic, that is a concerted and vain attempt to change what God's Word actually teaches. That kind of movement of interpreting The Bible mostly as allegory was one of the problems the Christian school at Alexandria, Egypt had. Origen and Clement both got in trouble for it.

Amill says Christ's "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20 is only SYMBOLIC, and not LITERAL. Thus they also deny Old Testament Scripture like Zechariah 14 which is about Christ's future 2nd coming back to Jerusalem and His future reign with His elect over all nations, including the unsaved nations. They also deny references to Christ's future reign over the wicked as described by Apostle Paul. Amill instead wrongly believes that at Christ's future return, all the wicked are then immediately destroyed, and right then we go into God's new heavens and a new earth time. They simply skip any Bible reference of the wicked still existing after Christ's future return.

And then, Amill makes TODAY, our PRESENT DAY, special, in the sense that Lord Jesus is REIGNING NOW! and that His Kingdom has come today! And that even though all the wickedness is still going on in this world. It's a theory of a madman! But hey, it serves the Occultists well, because Lucifer has always wanted to be God, and worshiped in place of God. That was his original sin by the way, coveting God's Throne for himself, wanting to be God. No matter that Lucifer and his followers can setup a fake world kingdom with wickedness still going on in it.
You're thrashing around in a bog Davy!
 
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Adam lived 930 years and he would of lived 1,000 years had he not sinned.
And that somehow means there will be a 1,000 year reign in the future? No. That's quite a stretch. Premils have no clear scripture to support their doctrine, so they have to resort to nonsense like this instead.
 
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And that somehow means there will be a 1,000 year reign in the future? No. That's quite a stretch. Premils have no clear scripture to support their doctrine, so they have to resort to nonsense like this instead.
1000/930 = 1.075

1.075% of a stretch is barely a heartbeat

Adam fell short of 1,000 years by 70 years = skip in the park
 

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Not true. He would have lived forever. What has had to do about it anything?
Of course Adam would of lived forever BUT before Adam could enter into Eternity, he had to complete the last 70 years.

Sin caused him to fall short of the last 70 years = Romans 3:23

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
 

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Of course Adam would of lived forever BUT before Adam could enter into Eternity, he had to complete the last 70 years.

Sin caused him to fall short of the last 70 years = Romans 3:23

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
What is your point? It seems like you're trying to manipulate the text to somehow prove your Premillennialism.
 

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Amillennialism is a Christian belief that denies a literal thousand-year reign of Christ on Earth, interpreting the "thousand years" mentioned in Revelation 20 symbolically. It holds that Christ's reign is spiritual and currently ongoing, coinciding with the present church age, and that the final judgment will occur at the end of this age.

Amillennialism is false doctrine!

Glad we got that all cleared up :funlaugh2
 

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Ever hear of the "New World Order" folks? Or "one world government"?

What about the Revelation 13:1 beast kingdom that comes up out of the "sea", that is to have ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns? You've heard of that for the end of this world, right?

I agree in part. It's going to be - and already is - pretty obvious who the beast is referring to.

Christ descended from the highest place - God the Father, and returned there.

The beast will ascend from the abyss, and will return there.

All the authority of God except God the Father has been placed in Christ's hands. The biblical type given to us of this is Joseph exercising all the authority of Pharaoh before him, with only Pharaoh's own authority excluded.

All the authority of the beast will be exercised by the false prophet.

Christ died for the sins of the world, rose again from the dead and ascended alive to heaven. Christ is the image of God the Father.

The image of the beast
causes all who will not WORSHIP the beast or his image or take his mark to be killed. The beast and false prophet will be thrown alive into the abyss by Christ when He returns.
Christ is the legitimate 8th King - the King of the 8th Kingdom.

The beast is an impostor.

IMO anyone who cannot perceive that this is indeed about worship, and that taking the mark of the beast will prove who every individual worships, is just willfully blinded. "Buying and selling" is only telling us about strong coercion.

"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world". Rev 13:9

I don't know when the false theology built on top of the bad interpretation of Revelation 20 began, but yes I think that belief in Amillennialism can cause people to collaborate with this world's system, because they don't believe there will be consequences to them if they do.​
 
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Amillennialism is a Christian belief that denies a literal thousand-year reign of Christ on Earth, interpreting the "thousand years" mentioned in Revelation 20 symbolically. It holds that Christ's reign is spiritual and currently ongoing, coinciding with the present church age, and that the final judgment will occur at the end of this age.

Amillennialism is false doctrine!

Glad we got that all cleared up :funlaugh2
Zero evidence. Just more opinion. That's just about sums up Premillennialism.
 
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