an apology in the old sense for my actions lately*

[historyb]

I put this here because I have no desire to debate. No desire to spar, no desire to go back and forth and not get anywhere.


I have been filled with immeasurable hate, white hot hate. A hatred that goes down to the very soul and can twist one into a type of Anakin or Sauron. It all came to a boiling point yesterday when I found myself watching a video about my favorite topic World War 2 era. I found myself agreeing with Hitler and replacing things he said with the word "Liberals". I have hated Liberals so much that that is all I could think about, just sticking it to liberals. Up to the point that the camps that the USA used for the Japanese seemed a great place to herd liberals. I had fantasies about getting wishes and sending all liberals to the Andromeda galaxy.


My own predilections lead me there but what led me there to that state even more was the media, no not the liberal media but the conservative media. Always both sides are keeping everything in our faces all the time to the point that they want hatred not peace, they want war not peace. Now I might hear you say to just stop listening except it is not that easy the message permeates everything.


So what brought about this realization and hopefully change, you may ask? It was a video I saw last night after searching for vintage things. I found this women who taught about modernism and the video clicked with me, well there were two. Hopefully I can turn from my march to the dark side. I would like to share these two videos. I am not sure where I am going from here I must meditate, think, and repentant for a bit. Just don’t let politics dominate your lives because it is not really that important.

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*https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-history-of-the-word-apology

 

[April_Rose]

Well you have every reason to be angry with Liberals, but also not all Liberals are like you see in the media either. As for Biden,.. he can just go suck an egg in my book.

 

[Waiting on him]

Proverbs 25:28 KJV
[28] He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

 

[WaterSong]

I put this here because I have no desire to debate. No desire to spar, no desire to go back and forth and not get anywhere.


I have been filled with immeasurable hate, white hot hate. A hatred that goes down to the very soul and can twist one into a type of Anakin or Sauron. It all came to a boiling point yesterday when I found myself watching a video about my favorite topic World War 2 era. I found myself agreeing with Hitler and replacing things he said with the word "Liberals". I have hated Liberals so much that that is all I could think about, just sticking it to liberals. Up to the point that the camps that the USA used for the Japanese seemed a great place to herd liberals. I had fantasies about getting wishes and sending all liberals to the Andromeda galaxy.


My own predilections lead me there but what led me there to that state even more was the media, no not the liberal media but the conservative media. Always both sides are keeping everything in our faces all the time to the point that they want hatred not peace, they want war not peace. Now I might hear you say to just stop listening except it is not that easy the message permeates everything.


So what brought about this realization and hopefully change, you may ask? It was a video I saw last night after searching for vintage things. I found this women who taught about modernism and the video clicked with me, well there were two. Hopefully I can turn from my march to the dark side. I would like to share these two videos. I am not sure where I am going from here I must meditate, think, and repentant for a bit. Just don’t let politics dominate your lives because it is not really that important.

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*https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-history-of-the-word-apology

That's no way to insult the Andromeda galaxy. What has it ever done to you? ;)

I too have become grumpier since this whole election thing got screwy. Perhaps it is because there is so much weighing on the final outcome as pertains to the future of our country and to what side we arrive.

Though we're not part of this world the goings on in this world do impact our lives. And of course our faith's free right to practice. Just think of how many Christians have been effected by the lock down. While the secular worlds vice spaces, like casinos, bars, are very often granted more rights than the churches.


When I first got involved as a political activist it was very easy to see all the wrongs that need to be addressed and then, to think of how much work there was to do to make changes in those areas.
After awhile the old axiom, pick your battles, started to resonate.

Yours is a great testimony. Thank you for sharing your very personal struggle and journey with us. God bless.

 

[Nancy]

I put this here because I have no desire to debate. No desire to spar, no desire to go back and forth and not get anywhere.


I have been filled with immeasurable hate, white hot hate. A hatred that goes down to the very soul and can twist one into a type of Anakin or Sauron. It all came to a boiling point yesterday when I found myself watching a video about my favorite topic World War 2 era. I found myself agreeing with Hitler and replacing things he said with the word "Liberals". I have hated Liberals so much that that is all I could think about, just sticking it to liberals. Up to the point that the camps that the USA used for the Japanese seemed a great place to herd liberals. I had fantasies about getting wishes and sending all liberals to the Andromeda galaxy.


My own predilections lead me there but what led me there to that state even more was the media, no not the liberal media but the conservative media. Always both sides are keeping everything in our faces all the time to the point that they want hatred not peace, they want war not peace. Now I might hear you say to just stop listening except it is not that easy the message permeates everything.


So what brought about this realization and hopefully change, you may ask? It was a video I saw last night after searching for vintage things. I found this women who taught about modernism and the video clicked with me, well there were two. Hopefully I can turn from my march to the dark side. I would like to share these two videos. I am not sure where I am going from here I must meditate, think, and repentant for a bit. Just don’t let politics dominate your lives because it is not really that important.

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*https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-history-of-the-word-apology

Good and thoughtful post hb and, love the comparison of Jews/Liberals.

"The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."
2 Cor.4:4

Kind of thinking that all the dividing finger-pointing, and just plain propaganda started in earnest at the invention of the printing press. The hoards are ready to swallow hook, line and sinker, what is fed to them on the tv...must be true! They are fair and balanced, cause they said so!! Take a quick peek on how it came to be that American women started to shave their legs and underarms?? Very telling, and quite embarrassing to see how easily we are led.
Can't we say that Jesus Christ died for ALL peoples! We all have red blood and white bones, yes? We all have the same Creator created in His Own image? But...even many Christians are being led to hate, through media. You will only see extremes, and what the owners of "news" stations will allow to be broadcast. Imho.

I love minimalism. Came in kicking and screaming to get a dumb cell phone. Still have the home one :) that is, until they do permanently away with them! Have had a tv that collects dust, cannot and have not sat in front of one (one that is actually turned on, that is lol) in actual decades. Music and reading are what draw me more. As far as the "news" goes...that was cancelled a long time ago as far as the cable news anyhow (Pay per view)"Trust no man..." Any News is online so, I get local as well as National and World so, I might not know what "commercial" you are talking about but my head is not in the sand either ;)
It was so very freeing to have left the politics behind me, as it divided myself and many friends AND family and, it kept me in this mood of us against them all. the. time. I am so much better for it. What ever happened to politics supposing to be a "private issue"?? Hmmmm.

There should be zero room for hatred of any person in a true Christians life. We hate only SIN and who is behind the huge portion of it. Satan is still the "god of this world" so...we fight not against...
Sorry hb, I know you said "Now I might hear you say to just stop listening except it is not that easy the message permeates everything."
I agree, yes it does, we are still "in" this world like an Alien.
Thoughtful post.
His blessings bro!
nancy
BTW- That was one of the more honest posts on here I have heard in awhile :)

 

[Angelina]

I put this here because I have no desire to debate. No desire to spar, no desire to go back and forth and not get anywhere.


I have been filled with immeasurable hate, white hot hate. A hatred that goes down to the very soul and can twist one into a type of Anakin or Sauron. It all came to a boiling point yesterday when I found myself watching a video about my favorite topic World War 2 era. I found myself agreeing with Hitler and replacing things he said with the word "Liberals". I have hated Liberals so much that that is all I could think about, just sticking it to liberals. Up to the point that the camps that the USA used for the Japanese seemed a great place to herd liberals. I had fantasies about getting wishes and sending all liberals to the Andromeda galaxy.


My own predilections lead me there but what led me there to that state even more was the media, no not the liberal media but the conservative media. Always both sides are keeping everything in our faces all the time to the point that they want hatred not peace, they want war not peace. Now I might hear you say to just stop listening except it is not that easy the message permeates everything.


So what brought about this realization and hopefully change, you may ask? It was a video I saw last night after searching for vintage things. I found this women who taught about modernism and the video clicked with me, well there were two. Hopefully I can turn from my march to the dark side. I would like to share these two videos. I am not sure where I am going from here I must meditate, think, and repentant for a bit. Just don’t let politics dominate your lives because it is not really that important.

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*https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-history-of-the-word-apology

Coming from a country you may consider "Liberal", I just do not understand how anyone can come to a point of hating others because of their political views? I have a work colleague who has migrated to NZ from Minnesota. She still has family living there and at the time when there was a lot on the news about the Black Lives matter issue and a lot of clashes in that state. She made 2 concise points that I still cannot grasp, even to this day.

She said 1. Americans are not racist. 2. Donald Trump will be re-elected.

I find that racism is in every country in the world and I really cannot see how Mr Trump will manage to keep his presidency at this time.

What we need to remember is that we are Christians first and our allegiance is to God and not man. Whoever becomes the next President of the USA [and it looks like you got Bidon] it's what God says to us that counts. At the end of the day God is our only source and supply of all our needs and he will see us through every storm. Blessings and Peace!

 

[Hidden In Him]

I like where she's going in a sense. It would be wonderful to return back to earlier times in many ways, but with one big exception. I think American culture was dominated more by Christian morality than Christian spirituality. In other words, the focus was on moral conduct rather than things like leading a life of prayer and seeking God for supernatural gifts. It was a good time, but was it enough to truly change the world for Christ? The times we are coming into now, with immorality about to reach all new highs, along with crime, poverty, hatred of Christians, persecution, and government corruption, all with force true believers in the Lord Jesus Christ to turn to Him in ways that those who lived during the times she is talking about never would have. And it is only if we truly turn to Him in complete surrender, to a life of prayer especially, that the power of God is finally going to be poured out upon us.

So it's a mixed bag for me. Yes, I long for those old days myself, and may I say especially that proper look to the way she was dressing. It was so much more becoming and self-respecting than what many wear today. But if I had the choice, frankly I would prefer what we have now, not because of the culture because the culture is repulsive in many ways, especially how dumbed down we have become in most respects. But if the moral, political, social, intellectual, and religious decline now leads to the outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the rise of the Army of God as prophesied in Joel 2, then I'd have to say it is way overdue, and I'd rather be moving in that direction now than remaining stuck in a form of Christianity that was moral but didn't really have any power in it.

 

[historyb]

As I was discussing this with my wife I told her that I feel that we will go back to the time of the 50's in morals and I further feel that the internet will be rejected for a time. I would be so glad to go to sleep in this Godless era and wake up in the 50's. I have to disagree with you here that I would rather have good Christian moral conduct than anything else. In many ways I feel that the putting aside of Christian morals than seeking spiritual gifts. I believe that an inordinate focus on seeking gifts lead down the wrong path among of course many non spiritual factors. I know the irony of what I just wrote and me being a sub deacon in the Charismatic Episcopal Church :)

 

[Hidden In Him]

As I was discussing this with my wife I told her that I feel that we will go back to the time of the 50's in morals and I further feel that the internet will be rejected for a time. I would be so glad to go to sleep in this Godless era and wake up in the 50's. I have to disagree with you here that I would rather have good Christian moral conduct than anything else. In many ways I feel that the putting aside of Christian morals than seeking spiritual gifts. I believe that an inordinate focus on seeking gifts lead down the wrong path among of course many non spiritual factors. I know the irony of what I just wrote and me being a sub deacon in the Charismatic Episcopal Church :)

LoL!

Quite alright. Don't get me wrong. I would LIKE living in a moral culture if I could. But will it get us where we really need to go? See, in the end, our priority has to be the salvation of the world and the end-time harvest. But I do agree that a seeking after the gifts at the expense of Christian morality would be a terrible mistake. I just always take it as a given that those who truly love Christ Jesus are seeking the full manifestation of Him in their lives, not only supernaturally but morally and doctrinally as well.

No one would ever force me to make a choice on any of that, because I don't think Christ should ever be segmented out to where we only receive one manifestation of Him but not the others.

 

[Storm]

A great OP and wonderful to read. The Lord bless you richly, @historyb . :)

This should be good for a laugh. I'll never forget the epic arguments between my parents during election season. My father was a staunch conservative while my mother was a die-hard liberal. He voted Republican and she, of course, voted Democratic. Dad voted for Nixon which earned the undying scorn of mom; years later this would crop up like clockwork during subsequent elections. "You voted for a crook!" she would cry and so my father would respond with his best impersonation of Jimmy Carter (she was devoted to Carter)... epic stuff. They were too busy arguing to notice me rolling on the floor.

Ah, but as far as parenting goes my father was merciful and lenient after he changed his ways. He would do his very best to help us learn from our blunders and mistakes, lecturing us at length... between you and me I would have preferred a whipping to some of his lectures.

My mother, on the other hand, made the drill sergeants in Basic Training look like slackers. She was hard, unforgiving, and more than a little vindictive. I had just turned 12 when she grounded me until I was 18 years old... lol.

Is there a point to all of that? Politics, like my late parents, never made much sense to me. The conservative was laid-back and the liberal was hard-nosed. People don't always fit neatly into boxes.

 

[quietthinker]

Well you have every reason to be angry with Liberals, but also not all Liberals are like you see in the media either. As for Biden,.. he can just go suck an egg in my book.

I'm sure he'll get a lot of nutrition out of that!.....or is the egg in your book.....maybe you could send it to him....the egg that is, not the book. :)

 

[April_Rose]

I'm sure he'll get a lot of nutrition out of that!.....or is the egg in your book.....maybe you could send it to him....the egg that is, not the book. :)

ROTFL I think you might have finally just made a new friend as no matter if you were being sarcastic,.. I must admit that was funny.

 

[April_Rose]

As I was discussing this with my wife I told her that I feel that we will go back to the time of the 50's in morals and I further feel that the internet will be rejected for a time. I would be so glad to go to sleep in this Godless era and wake up in the 50's. I have to disagree with you here that I would rather have good Christian moral conduct than anything else. In many ways I feel that the putting aside of Christian morals than seeking spiritual gifts. I believe that an inordinate focus on seeking gifts lead down the wrong path among of course many non spiritual factors. I know the irony of what I just wrote and me being a sub deacon in the Charismatic Episcopal Church :)

Are you saying that you're not going to be on the internet then?

 

[TLHKAJ]

I do hope that more people will wake up to how they're being played and pitted against each other by both sides of the media.
Btw, there aren't really two sides to the media. They are all owned by the cult...only presenting to us "two sides" to sector us off and create conflict.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Imo, I don't see conservatism or liberalism in political terms. I see them in spiritual terms. You have Christians who believe they can live after the flesh (even where Scripture admonishes against certain actions and behaviors) and please God. And you have Christians who do their best to obey His Word and walk in ways that will please God. One is "liberal" and the other "conservative."

 

[farouk]

Imo, I don't see conservatism or liberalism in political terms. I see them in spiritual terms. You have Christians who believe they can live after the flesh (even where Scripture admonishes against certain actions) and please God. And you have Christians who do their best to obey His Word and walk in ways that will please God. One is "liberal" and the other "conservative."

@TLHKAJ Good for believers to look beyond politics and keep 'looking unto Jesus' (Hebrews 12.2)...

 

[TLHKAJ]

Just some thoughts to ponder....

Have you ever considered that if you met a "liberal" in person, you may even get along with them? They would probably help you out of a ditch if you needed it, or fill up your gas tank if you were stranded. Some are probably more conservative than a "conservative" in some areas. And if they do not know Christ, would their "liberalism" keep you from loving them and sharing the Gospel with them? Would you ask them their political stance before you share the love of God with them?

 

[farouk]

Just some thoughts to ponder....

Have you ever considered that if you met a "liberal" in person, you may even get along with them? They would probably help you out of a ditch if you needed it, or fill up your gas tank if you were stranded. Some are probably more conservative than a "conservative" in some areas. And if they do not know Christ, would their "liberalism" keep you from loving them and sharing the Gospel with them? Would you ask them their political stance before you share the love of God with them?

@TLHKAJ Some ppl think political labels clarify; but in fact they can also be blinding instead....

 

[Ziggy]

I say Democrats a lot. Not because of who the individual is, rather the party, the ideology they support.
I would never not give a cup of cold water or a tank of gas to someone based on their politics.
The whole rules to this game is to keep us divided.
While we're busy fighting over he said/she said, they are getting away with deception and lies.. all over the place.
It's not democrat/republican, liberal/conservative. black/white. rich/poor. atheism/religion.

Once you get past the "labels" you can see the rules better.
And the rules are for themselves not for us.
Everything you are witnessing right now has been planned for a long long time.
You can either participate by being a victim of it, or being the victor by not letting it control your passions.

I was really depressed with everything before I came here.
Now I see things and I stand back and say to myself, interesting card they just laid down, I wonder what the counter move will be?
You can use any analogy you like. Poker, Chess, Football. It's all about strategy.
And we're not in the game. We are the ones sitting in the bleechers or in the crowd watching the game be played in front of our eyes.
You see cards up the sleeves, you see bad referees making bad calls, fouls, offside, time-outs.. you name it.

It's just we will be the ones getting hurt by the games they play.
Stop fighting eachother, it's what they want.
You too busy fighting you don't get to see the "magic tricks" exposed.

We will never unite or find unity with the ways of the world. We were called out from it. Seperated and sanctified from the works of the world.
We're still here, we watch it, but we don't have to be a part of it.

Love your neighbor doesn't mean only this group or that color or that political view.
And though we may disagree vehemently with the policies or the ideologies..
even if the world can find no compromise..
Doesn't mean that we "the church" can not forgive and be forgiven and find compromise among ourselves.

Refuse to be a victim.

God Bless
Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

This just came up on my alerts..
funny how timing works :)

Hugs