"They asked Jesus for mercy and suggested the pigs and Jesus gave them permission to enter them." - Aspen
-- If you (honestly) take a step back you will see you are comparing humans who have died in their sin and demons.
Apples to oranges.
"There are a few words that are only used to talk down to people - 'tripe' is one of those words." - Aspen
-- And you have never used condescending or insulting words to address others on this board, right?
"Well, I don't have a with your faith including activities not supported by God" - Aspen
-- Linguistically challenging as this statement is I am going to assume you omitted the word "problem."
I would challenge you to point out one single solitary faith-based "activity" I participate in not supported by God. Please be specific.
"And my political views should not influence your opinion about my faith." - Aspen
-- Really?
Politics indicate values. Values indicate beliefs. Beliefs indicate faith. Faith is benchmark of your relationship with God.
A person's politics are a direct reflection of their faith.
You don't want to be judged on your politics, but you use your political position to criticize Christians who stand on the Word.
You have made the unfair accusation multiple times that Christians are speaking out of hatred when they point out the Bible's position on homosexuality.
I can speak from experience that the majority of times I have ever commented on what the Scriptures say about homosexuality has been because a homosexual has approached me and DEMANDED to know how I could possibly believe what I do.
I share out of love and explain that Jesus loves them and wants the very best for them and in return I am called names and cussed at.
I am curious though. I know you have spoken on this before, but statements since then have caused me to wonder:
Do you believe that people who engage in and no not repent from homosexual activities will be welcomed into heaven?
"I share Lewis' view about Hell." - Aspen
-- More power to you. Your mind is made up and you don't wish to be confused by the facts:
-- Bottom line? Matt 25 flies in the face of your "unredeemed spirit in the presence of a Holy God" statement.
It really is that simple.
-- If you (honestly) take a step back you will see you are comparing humans who have died in their sin and demons.
Apples to oranges.
"There are a few words that are only used to talk down to people - 'tripe' is one of those words." - Aspen
-- And you have never used condescending or insulting words to address others on this board, right?
"Well, I don't have a with your faith including activities not supported by God" - Aspen
-- Linguistically challenging as this statement is I am going to assume you omitted the word "problem."
I would challenge you to point out one single solitary faith-based "activity" I participate in not supported by God. Please be specific.
"And my political views should not influence your opinion about my faith." - Aspen
-- Really?
Politics indicate values. Values indicate beliefs. Beliefs indicate faith. Faith is benchmark of your relationship with God.
A person's politics are a direct reflection of their faith.
You don't want to be judged on your politics, but you use your political position to criticize Christians who stand on the Word.
You have made the unfair accusation multiple times that Christians are speaking out of hatred when they point out the Bible's position on homosexuality.
I can speak from experience that the majority of times I have ever commented on what the Scriptures say about homosexuality has been because a homosexual has approached me and DEMANDED to know how I could possibly believe what I do.
I share out of love and explain that Jesus loves them and wants the very best for them and in return I am called names and cussed at.
I am curious though. I know you have spoken on this before, but statements since then have caused me to wonder:
Do you believe that people who engage in and no not repent from homosexual activities will be welcomed into heaven?
"I share Lewis' view about Hell." - Aspen
-- More power to you. Your mind is made up and you don't wish to be confused by the facts:
"I am not saying Hell will be a vacation spot, but it will certainly be better then the horror of being unredeemed in the presence of a Holy God." - Aspen
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me." "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."-- Matt. 25:
-- It was such a 'horror' that they stood there asking for clarification, waiting on a response, hoping that His explanation will make them understand or give them a loophole.
Sure doesn't sound like the "wailing and gnashing of teeth" that they would be experiencing in Hell....does it?
They were "unredeemed in the presence of a Holy God"....carrying on a conversation with Him, no less.
-- Bottom line? Matt 25 flies in the face of your "unredeemed spirit in the presence of a Holy God" statement.
It really is that simple.