And God created oil.

[Rockerduck]

Oh dear.....do you understand that the devil has created a world of dependency? All of the things that God created to sustain life were free.....we were to work with our own hands to sustain our lives, using all the things God provided to do so....but under satan’s rulership, we have lost the ability to do that...and now we are slaves to those who control those things.....food delivery systems are only necessary if we do not grow our own food....the seeds of which were a guarantee of a perpetual supply. God did not create huge and greedy corporations to milk us of our income because of our need to eat. Humans did that.

Transportation by road, rail or air today, comes at a cost, materially, and with each one contributing to the pollution of our atmosphere where God designed trees to take in what we breathe out.....a perfect system, self-perpetuating. He did not design the atmosphere to absorb unnatural pollution. Man made again.

As for the transportation of the Billy Graham’s of Christendom’s churches.....who said such ones needed today’s means of transportation?
Wasn’t Christianity to be preached at the local level? All Christians were given the assignment to preach....but in order to reach other nations some were assigned to travel.
When people spent weeks at sea in sail boats to reach their destination in Bible times, did they have any expectation to reach it sooner? Do sail boats pollute the atmosphere?
The invention of machinery that ran on fossil fuels, was the beginning of the end.....it may have revolutionised how humans conducted their business and increased their profits...but at what cost to the environment?...and at the expense his human self sufficiency. A price that was lost in the landslide that followed.

When humans designed things, as the industrial revolution changed the way man lived on this planet, did they originally take into consideration that the machinery they designed to make life easier, would be harmful to the environment? Or were they made aware of it over time as the evidence accumulated? Once they knew, weren’t they under obligation to do something about it? What did they do that made any real difference, when money was to be made by ignoring it? Did pretending it wasn’t there, make it go away?

The “knowledge” we have today leaves us with no excuse to promote what is detrimental to the earth, to its inhabitants, and that has only greed for profit at its base. Look at what is happening around the world? Once prosperous nations like the USA (and many other nations, my own included) are showing the decline in quality of life, with the rich exploiting the poor and forcing people who could once maintain a moderate, middle class lifestyle, who are now forced to live in their cars, or to be part of an ugly tent city.

Those who promote the greed of this world have fallen right into satan’s trap.....and they will protest loudly to maintain their lifestyle and to promote the lie that the end justifies the means. As @Wrangler is doing right now.
Tell it to the Creator who knows the ones who are mindful of his creation and want to respect it, rather than those who ignore the consequences to enjoy the lifestyle.....one that is sadly disappearing for the now homeless ones who thought that this could never happen to them.

God created the earth and everything in it and said it was good.

 

[brian25]

God gave us the oil to refine for gas. The gospel spread because of it. Billy Graham traveled all over the world and spread the gospel. There would be no air travel, and you'd be stuck on a ship with sails and 4 months at sea to travel to another country. Food would be scarce by wagons deliveries. So, oil is a blessing for many reasons. Daniel 12:4 - But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase.”

You have made some very good points there but now i'm confused , why are our Governments always on about global warming/climate change and wanting us to drive electric cars..?

 

[Rockerduck]

You have made some very good points there but now i'm confused , why are our Governments always on about global warming/climate change and wanting us to drive electric cars..?

Environmentalists think that is way for supposed climate ills. But, common sense people know the battery costs big bucks and they come from China. The consumer cannot change an electric car battery. Charging stations are far apart and take 3 or more hours to charge. Its just a bad idea, unless you drive less than 100 miles a day and never use an electric car to go on vacation or a day trip.

 

[Aunty Jane]

God created the earth and everything in it and said it was good.

Yes, everything in it was “good”....but not everything done with God’s creation is good.
Do you think he created uranium to produce plutonium for the manufacture of nuclear weapons for humans to annihilate other humans and to destroy the earth?

Uranium is what they take out of the earth...plutonium is what you get after scientists have worked on the atom to produce a most heinous weapon of mass destruction. Was that OK with God?

We have seen what catastrophic nuclear accidents do with power stations that have exploded and caused death and destruction to the surrounding environment. The area stays radio-active for centuries. Did God intend for us to mess with nature so that the things he created were altered to make something wicked?
Did he create humans to go to war with one another so that they had to scheme how to ‘out weaponize’ each other for the sake of national pride?

Left in the earth, uranium is just another heavy element decaying slowly over time under the earth....but when humans alter the molecular structure of something to make what God would never sanction....maybe we need to think again about the way we live and do things that might be convenient but are contrary to the way we were made to live and to the way we were made to “love our neighbor as ourselves”.

Oil and petroleum products are ruining the earth.....do you care, or are you just concerned with your ability to enjoy recreation?

Who said the way we spend our time is the way God made us to do so?
Man made systems that control the world are a product of the devil, if they work against us instead of for us...who enjoys the slave/master system that has driven the world’s economy for centuries.....the rich get rich by exploiting the poor....is that the way God made us to live? Seriously?

I hope you know that there have been inventions of engines that run on magnets with no other power source needed and will operate perpetually...for free.....one man invented a car that ran on sea water...he mysteriously died, and the plans for his invention were lost.......guess why you will never see these inventions? No money in them for the oil barons....too much wealth and power.

“The Iove of money is the root of all evil”....Jesus said.....never a truer word was spoken.

 

[Rockerduck]

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[Wrangler]

now i'm confused , why are our Governments always on about global warming/climate change and wanting us to drive electric cars..?

The way of government, coercive agents, is always to keep the populace in a state of fear, which makes it easier to control.

 

[Rockerduck]

Yes, everything in it was “good”....but not everything done with God’s creation is good.
Do you think he created uranium to produce plutonium for the manufacture of nuclear weapons for humans to annihilate other humans and to destroy the earth?

Uranium is what they take out of the earth...plutonium is what you get after scientists have worked on the atom to produce a most heinous weapon of mass destruction. Was that OK with God?

We have seen what catastrophic nuclear accidents do with power stations that have exploded and caused death and destruction to the surrounding environment. The area stays radio-active for centuries. Did God intend for us to mess with nature so that the things he created were altered to make something wicked?
Did he create humans to go to war with one another so that they had to scheme how to ‘out weaponize’ each other for the sake of national pride?

Left in the earth, uranium is just another heavy element decaying slowly over time under the earth....but when humans alter the molecular structure of something to make what God would never sanction....maybe we need to think again about the way we live and do things that might be convenient but are contrary to the way we were made to live and to the way we were made to “love our neighbor as ourselves”.

Oil and petroleum products are ruining the earth.....do you care, or are you just concerned with your ability to enjoy recreation?

Who said the way we spend our time is the way God made us to do so?
Man made systems that control the world are a product of the devil, if they work against us instead of for us...who enjoys the slave/master system that has driven the world’s economy for centuries.....the rich get rich by exploiting the poor....is that the way God made us to live? Seriously?

I hope you know that there have been inventions of engines that run on magnets with no other power source needed and will operate perpetually...for free.....one man invented a car that ran on sea water...he mysteriously died, and the plans for his invention were lost.......guess why you will never see these inventions? No money in them for the oil barons....too much wealth and power.

“The Iove of money is the root of all evil”....Jesus said.....never a truer word was spoken.

God created everything and it was good, but the Devil is the god of this world. This world has both good and evil. Scientists never invent anything; they discover what has already been created. Most everything that has happened, that you bring up, is in Matthew 24. This world is an evil place, and there has never been a time in the history of this earth where a war was not taking place, John 16:33 - These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation but take courage; I have overcome the world.”

God is in control, not man. Jesus takes care of His own.

Daniel 12:4-But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase.”

Daniel 12: 10 - Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand.

 

[Wrangler]

Getting back to oil; oil is the best energy source now, all things considered. The populace has been indoctrinated to belief that a trace gas, necessary for life, recovering from all-time low levels, presents an existential threat to life on the planet.

Alternative energy sources are not only less economical but also worse for the environment.

 

[lforrest]

Getting back to oil; oil is the best energy source now, all things considered. The populace has been indoctrinated to belief that a trace gas, necessary for life, recovering from all-time low levels, presents an existential threat to life on the planet.

Alternative energy sources are not only less economical but also worse for the environment.

I believe we should pursue alternative energy sources even if the only reason is the crude oil and natural gas reserves are finite.

Some means of transportation require the energy density of liquid fuel, like planes. I suppose hydrogen would work but that creates serious safety issues.

 

[Wrangler]

I believe we should pursue alternative energy sources even if the only reason is the crude oil and natural gas reserves are finite.

Sure, just don’t subsidize uneconomical alternatives. $100’s of billions have been squandered world wide that could be put to better use, like not enslaving the next generation with debt.

There is a difference between the existence of alternative energy sources and their relative cost. Normalizing from oil at 1, these alternatives are not merely a % more expensive, like 25% or a factor of 1.25. These alternatives are 10-20 x more expensive.

Then when you factor in their WORSE environmental impact, it’s even worse. For instance, wind energy. Devastating oxygen producing forests to harvest variable wind hurts the air quality + the habitat of many more acres of wildlife than oil.

I did my master’s thesis on oil derivatives compared to other options from a waste disposal perspective. I found the reality did not match the environmental rhetoric. Take the red pill.

You personally might choose to feed your family alternative food that costs 20x. Liberty is other families making their own economic choices without coercion. At some level of punitive interference in markets, you create a black market.

 

[Jay Ross]

I believe we should pursue alternative energy sources even if the only reason is the crude oil and natural gas reserves are finite.

The energy reserves have always been finite, with them only being revealed when viable to extract.

Solar energy, including wind power, is also finite in that we cannot produce more energy from solar sources than what is already being received from the sun.

There is one location where we can mine methane from, if we know where we can find large quantities of Spitting Rock to gather it together and to decompose the spitting rock.

Oh well, such is life.

 

[Jericho]

Oil is not a bad thing. Modern civilization as we know it couldn't currently exist without it. All the products and food you buy at the store were brought by ships and trucks, which run on gas. But oil is not just important for making gas; it's used in so many applications. Even the clothes you wear likely contain petroleum products. If you removed all the oil in the world, it would be like living back in the 19th century again. And life then was much harder than it is today. As for pollution goes, I don't believe CO₂ is nearly the problem that it's made out to be.

 

[Taken]

But why , what's it's actual purpose and function for being there..?
I could be wrong but I find it hard to believe that God put it there for us to drive cars and pollute the atmosphere , but then again , who knows...

Regarding manKIND…

God CREATED (accomplished) AND MADE (ongoing) all things OF the Earth For manKIND to Discover and Use for good.

Oil… Lubes, Anoints, Burns.

Oil in an automobile is for lubing.
Oil burning in an automobile is a sign of a mechanical failure.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

God Created and Made…

Oil is a creation for man to discover and use.

God CONTROLS the Weather…

Weather is typically short periods of Time regarding the elements that Short term affects humans…
travel, clothing choice, moods, work, etc.

Climate is typically long term periods of Time Recorded stats, regarding a usual pattern of repetitive Weather conditions.

Men choose to Give mens activities …
Credit / Blame… when Recorded Climate stats SHIFT.

God Controls the Weather!

Weather can and Does Shift Usual recorded patterns of Climate.

Men, NOR Money, changes Gods Works of controlling the Weather or Climate Shifts.

Very long term (decades)Climate Stats (men devised ) …. HAVE historically become “Headlines”….
A shift… Unusual Freezing…
Decades later.
A shift…Unusual Heat…ice caps melting…

Not unusual is the “Headlines”…becoming A Topic for “Fear-Mongering”… and Sudden “Need” for Politicos…
to Require TAX increases…
And…
to introduce nonsense burdensome legislation …

Nothing new!
God controls the weather.
Men…adapt…or move…(even animals do that).

 

[The Barbarian]

the oil, I believe was to lubricate the plates so that earthquakes would not occur so frequently....look at the number of earthquakes earth-wide and see the increase in the number of earthquakes in era of the automobile....

That's an ingenious idea. It sounds reasonable. But the evidence is that lubrication increases earthquakes.

Huge study links wastewater injection wells to earthquakes​

Massive studies of wastewater injection wells show fast pumping raises earthquake risk

https://www.science.org/content/article/huge-study-links-wastewater-injection-wells-earthquakes