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... And There Will Be Signs In The Sun And Moon And Stars ...

Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by Bobby Jo, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Luke 21:25 “And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and upon the earth distress of nations in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, 26 men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

    Christianity completely missed the Hale Bopp significance, but the Nike® apparel wearing "Heaven's Gate" cult members correctly saw the significance of that comet. Unfortunately they misapplied the consequence and some 39 members committed mass suicide so that they could enter the tail of the comet. -- It was apparently an attempt to anticipate the "New Jerusalem", but cults and even christianity (small "c") misconstrue Scripture to the disadvantage of their followers.

    What Christianity missed was that Hale Bopp was prophetic for the Seventy Sevens of Daniel 9, -- and that's a different presentation. But today it was announced on FOX NEWS that we have an interstellar (originating from outside our solar system) comet approaching our sun, traveling at an unusually high velocity (some 93k mph) which should reach it's closest approach on December 8th.

    As such, it might appear that my anticipated Summer/Fall Middle East war may be marked by this comet, which could suggest a Late-Fall fulfillment.


    Please note that this is only the second interstellar comet recorded in history, with the first occurring approximately September 9th of 2017:


    Don't we live in interesting times?!?
    Bobby Jo
     
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    ... and if one were to consider the new from the Middle East, -- apparently Iran sent drones (either directly or indirectly) to explode in a Saudi oil refinery. It happened right after Trump dismissed a significant "hawk" (former Ambassador, John Bolton -- previously Trump's National Security Advisor) from his administration.

    One has to wonder whether Iran was emboldened by having one less adversary in Washington, and now whether the allies will step up and defend their major supplier of energy by launching a "thrust" (Dan. 11:40) against this rogue regime.

    We might still be on schedule, but time and events will tell ...
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    Heh, I wonder if Trump will rehire Bolton back; "whoops, didn't mean to fire you..."

    Anyway, war will happen soon enough. Some OT prophecies are yet to be fulfilled.
     
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    No! Why would you say that? -- Trump is a non-interventionist, and he will do all he can to avoid what some run to.

    I suspect you have no clue what you're talking about, but you talk none the less/all the more.

    Bobby Jo
     
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    First, it was a joke, regarding Bolton. Second, tell that to Saudi Arabia...

    Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophecy of war: Tracking Bible Prophecy: The Gog and Magog War
     
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    You cite what neither you nor your source comprehend. Have you considered other Scriptures, and simple world history, -- or are you content with inaccurate/incomplete information?

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    Sure, I'm open-minded for new information to change my mind if it's accurate.

    Do you mean other Scriptures in context of other OT prophecies yet to be fulfilled, or other Scriptures in context of Ezekiel 38 and 39, or both?
     
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    Both?

    First of all one must consider that the "world" consists of continents and regions beyond those "known" in Jesus' time, -- called "Extra-Biblical".
    Secondly, those continents and regions contain two of the three superpowers.
    Thirdly, all three superpowers are cited in Scripture.
    Lastly, those three superpowers will be involved in the Ezekiel 38 & 39 fulfillment.

    As such, one could start with the obvious and work toward the more complex:

    " ... the merchants of Tarshish and all its villages ..."

    Your source correctly suggests England, and also references the Psalms 48:7 "... ships of Tarshish ...", which is England. However, it fails to address the "villages", which are the same as the Dan. 11:5 "princes", of which one becomes stronger than the "king" (England), and is the United States, -- one of the three superpowers.

    So now we should fully anticipate a coalition of nations led by the United States which responds to the provocation of the Russia/Iran instigation (Ezekiel 38:11-12) as paralleled in Dan. 11:40.

    And by my expectation, as asserted since this past Spring in this forum multiple times, we should see this unfold starting as early as Summer and as late as Fall (2019). So by my understanding, we're pretty much on schedule.

    We certainly live in exciting times ...
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    Hale bopp cultists,, have nothing to do with prophetic signs
     
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    People have opinions, and they express them in spite of their ignorance.

    Oh well,
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    Is that what you did?
    I understand.
     
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    I don't think you understand too much, but that's not uncommon. Scripture call it "scoffing". You have no information, but you reject a concept:

    1 Peter 3:3 First of all you must understand this, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing ...

    And we ARE in the last days!
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    So if there are signs in the stars, then one should consider the significance of the Blood Moons, -- which appear to be associated with Obama's illegal "Nuclear Treaty" with Iran (illegal because it was never ratified by the Senate). -- Pretty self evident!

    But how about Hale-Bopp (HB)? The longest naked-eye viewing of any previous comets is about 3 months. But Hale-Bopp was visible for an astounding approximate 9 months. Now this comet virtually crossed our Earth's orbital path for which the Earth was approximately 4 months past that intersection vicinity, and had a 9.32M mile distance between Earth's orbital path and HB's intersection vicinity.* And I seem to recall the most brilliant passing was in the Spring of 1997, which coincided with WHAT BIBLE PROPHETIC EVENT?!?

    * Please note that the Moon is 238K miles away from the Earth, so the HB intersection distance would be approx. 39 times further than the Moon. But for further comparison, Mars is 140M miles from Earth which made HB 15 times closer to Earth's path than to Mars' path.

    -- This 9.32M mile distance appears to be specifically coincidental to Earth. --​

    And yeah, the commentators, preachers, and authors completely missed the HB significance. But the 39 "Heaven's Gate" cult saw it's importance, an then mis-applied it's significance.

    So the "church" in it's ignorance moved on, never appreciating that SIGN in the STARS. -- And I doubt that anyone will anticipate the significance of the interstellar comet on December 8th. After all, there were NUMEROUS books, sermons, and opinions about the Blood Moons but they preceded those eclipses; and I haven't heard about a single book, sermon, or opinion about the Dec. 8th interstellar comet which I would anticipate has Prophetic significance, -- just like Hale Bopp.

    Go figure,
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    Bobby Jo Said in Post #1:
    Luke 21:25 “And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and upon the earth distress of nations in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, 26 men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
    Christianity completely missed the Hale Bopp significance, but the Nike® apparel wearing "Heaven's Gate" cult members correctly saw the significance of that comet. Unfortunately they misapplied the consequence and some 39 members committed mass suicide so that they could enter the tail of the comet. -- It was apparently an attempt to anticipate the "New Jerusalem", but cults and even christianity (small "c") misconstrue Scripture to the disadvantage of their followers.

    What Christianity missed was that Hale Bopp was prophetic for the Seventy Sevens of Daniel 9, -- and that's a different presentation. But today it was announced on FOX NEWS that we have an interstellar (originating from outside our solar system) comet approaching our sun, traveling at an unusually high velocity (some 93k mph) which should reach it's closest approach on December 8th.

    As such, it might appear that my anticipated Summer/Fall Middle East war may be marked by this comet, which could suggest a Late-Fall fulfillment.

    Please note that this is only the second interstellar comet recorded in history, with the first occurring approximately September 9th of 2017:
    Don't we live in interesting times?!?


    So now December 8th has passed. So was there any MONUMENTAL EVENT in the NEWS? -- Well, how about all the liberal media assertions that Trump wasn't fit for office and should be removed under the 25th Amendment; was a Russian Agent; was colluding with Russia; -- and how about all those Trump Administration supporters, volunteers, and staff that ADMITTED to CRIMES?

    On December 9th the Horowitz I.G. Report was released and the criticisms of the FBI FISA Application were scathing. Virtually everything in the Nunes January 18, 2018 Memorandum on FISA Abuse was validated; and virtually everything in the January 29, 2018 Schiff response was refuted.

    What are consequences? -- People will be held civilly liable, and criminally liable. This includes many of the FBI "Operation Crossfire Hurricane" participants including Peter Strzok; Lisa Page; Kevin Clinesmith; Andrew McCabe; James Comey; and probably others.

    And one should anticipate future revelations from Justice Department Investigator John Durham, with additional people held civilly and criminally liable including: Bruce Orr; Sally Yates; Dana Boente; Rod Rosenstein; James Clapper; John Brennan; FORMER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA; and probably others.

    But toward this, we should expect the PROPHETIC Psalms* 109 (Book 19, Chapter 109 = the year 19 - 109 = 2009, for Obama's Inauguration year) to be fulfilled:

    Psalms 109 -- A Prophetic Word Against the U.S. President Barack Obama:
    1 Be not silent, O God of my praise!
    2 For wicked and deceitful mouths are opened against me,
    speaking against me with lying tongues.
    3 They beset me with words of hate,
    and attack me without cause.
    4 In return for my love they accuse me,
    even as I make prayer for them.
    5 So they reward me evil for good,
    and hatred for my love.
    6 Appoint a wicked man against him;
    let an accuser bring him to trial.
    7 When he is tried, let him come forth guilty;
    let his prayer be counted as sin!
    8 May his days be few;
    may another seize his goods!
    9 May his children be fatherless,
    and his wife a widow!
    10 May his children wander about and beg;
    may they be driven out of the ruins they inhabit!
    11 May the creditor seize all that he has;
    may strangers plunder the fruits of his toil!
    12 Let there be none to extend kindness to him,
    nor any to pity his fatherless children!
    13 May his posterity be cut off;
    may his name be blotted out in the second generation!
    14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the Lord,
    and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out!
    15 Let them be before the Lord continually;
    and may his memory be cut off from the earth!
    16 For he did not remember to show kindness,
    but pursued the poor and needy
    and the brokenhearted to their death.
    17 He loved to curse; let curses come on him!
    He did not like blessing; may it be far from him!
    18 He clothed himself with cursing as his coat,
    may it soak into his body like water,
    like oil into his bones!
    19 May it be like a garment which he wraps round him,
    like a belt with which he daily girds himself!
    20 May this be the reward of my accusers from the Lord,
    of those who speak evil against my life!
    ...

    * Ref. J.R. Church, "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms", Prophecy Publications, Oklahoma City, OK, 1986​


    And so we are FINALLY on a path toward accountability for the malfeasance and misfeasance committed against the MANY Trump supporters, volunteers, and staff who incurred personal attacks, legal fees, and violations of their Constitutional Rights.



    Perhaps the signs in the skies have portents AND fulfillments which we can't always anticipate, but are SIGNIFICANT in their own right!
    Bobby Jo
     
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