Are Christians Sinners?

[Truther]

It is possible that a Saint can become a sinner, James 5:19-20. The one who was called "brethren" v19 who errs from the truth is now called a 'sinner' v20. So as long as the brother/Christian remains in the truth walking in the light he is not a sinner but seen as righteous by God. Yet if he quits walking in the light (1 John 1:7) his sins are no longer cleansed away, he become lost sinner in need of being converted. So even though the Christian sins he is not a sinner in need of being converted for as long as he remains faithful in the truth (walking in the light) all his sins are cleansed away.

If an Acts 2:38 saint practices sin, he or she must prepare for a whoopin' from the Lord.

 

[user]

Obeying Acts 2:38 frees us from the Law, and walking in the Spirit keeps us free.
Everyone else is born under the Law.

YES! I couldnt have said it any better myself.

 

[user]

If an Acts 2:38 saint practices sin, he or she must prepare for a whoopin' from the Lord.

But when we [fall short and] are judged by the Lord, we are disciplined [by undergoing His correction] so that we will not be condemned [to eternal punishment] along with the world.

 

[Truther]

But when we [fall short and] are judged by the Lord, we are disciplined [by undergoing His correction] so that we will not be condemned [to eternal punishment] along with the world.

Yes, we know that we are sons of God when He disciplines us. He loves us more than we can even think of loving our children as we discipline them in their adolescence.
To even qualify as a child of God, one must obey Acts 2:38.

 

[Netchaplain]

Cause I'm sort of confused about this. Anybody and everybody who isn't Jesus sins,.. but yet since we are all saved by grace and the blood of Christ, does that mean we can't actually be called sinners since God no longer looks at our sin? Then again, we still need to repent whenever we do sin so which is it? Since murders are still murders even if they've felt remorse for it and have been forgiven for it afterwards.

This is a significant issue and can be a great encouragement! It's true that "God no longer looks at our sin," as He dose not observe us "after the flesh," i.e. after the old man or sin nature (Rom 8:9). In my understanding a sinner is not just one who sins but sins "willfully," as one without the new man and the Spirit (unregenerate - unsaved). This answers to why there are no Scriptures relating the saved as "sinners."

 

[Scott Downey]

No it doesn't. Christians are saved from Hell no matter how many or what kinds of sins that they commit. It doesn't excuse them, but Jesus still paid the penalty for them.

For Christians, God does not impute sin to their account, as in will not hold it against them regarding having eternal life, he passes over the sins previously committed.
However we are not to commit sins willfully as that ensures judgement against us. But still not to eternal death.

All of us sin, Christians still sin. If they deny their sin, then the truth is not in them.
We sin in our bodies, and we find ourselves as flesh and blood creatures for now,
Romans 8:9-11
New King James Version
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

But we are more then physical creatures when born again, we have a new spirit inside of us, joined to God as one spirit with Him, and that part of us is created in righteousness and holiness and that part can not sin

About our spirit in Christ this,
1 John 3:9
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.

1. 1 John 2:12
   Their Spiritual State
   I write to you, little children, Because your sins are forgiven you for His name’s sake.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. 1 John 3:4
   Sin and the Child of God
   Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
3. 1 John 3:5
   And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
4. 1 John 3:6
   Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
5. 1 John 3:8
   He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

Judgement leading to physically dying due to a christian's particular sinning behavior, such as willful, unrepent sins
1 John 5:16
If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.

 

[Scott Downey]

1. 1 John 1:7
   But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. 1 John 1:8
   If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
3. 1 John 1:9
   If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
4. 1 John 1:10
   If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

 

[Oceanprayers]

"Are Christians sinners?"

No.

Unless Jesus failed, and the Gospel is a lie. In that case the answer would be, both no and yes. There can be no such thing as a Christian. Yes, the whole world is full of sinners.

Thank God the latter isn't the case.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

op: "christians are CALLED sinners?"

there are no Scriptures relating the saved as "sinners."

Precious friends, again, Depends on the PROPER Definition of "christians" - ie:

1) According to The Scriptures!:

TRUE "christians" believe in The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God:

"The ALL-Sufficient Death, Burial, And Resurrection Of The LORD
JESUS CHRIST," For "forgiveness Of ALL sin," AND, "ETERNAL Life,
From God Himself!" HE, In His Word, CALLS such righteous:

"saints!"

Rom_1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called saints: Grace
to you and Peace from God our Father, and The Lord Jesus Christ.

1Co_1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are
sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints, with all that in every place call
upon The Name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

Eph_1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by The Will of God, to
the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

Eph_3:8 "Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is
This GRACE Given, that I should preach among the Gentiles
The Unsearchable Riches of Christ"

Eph_6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and
watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Col_1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse:
Grace be unto you, and Peace, from God our Father and The Lord Jesus Christ.

Col_1:26 Even The Mystery which hath been Hid from ages and
from generations, But Now Is Made Manifest to HIS saints:

1Th_3:13 To the end He may Stablish your hearts unblameable in
holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our
Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

2Th_1:10 When He shall come to be glorified in His saints, and to
be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among
you was believed) in That Day.

(et al...)

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion,
but of PEACE, as in all churches of the saints.

To prevent Confusion, now (with rule #2 of Bible study Rules) let us:

Rightly Divide (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:

2) FALSE "christians
Claiming" they are, who DO NOT "believe The Gospel Of God's GRACE,"
BUT, "believe in another (Accursed) gospel, and another Jesus," who are
SELF-salvationists, religious, grew up in a "christian" home, confessing/professing
they are "christians" but are not, are STILL in UNbelief, and thus are:

"sinners" (UNrighteous) * = @Netchaplain is Correct about the "TRULY saved (righteous)"...
--------------------------
IF interested, Much More On:

God's OPERATION On all HIS new-born baby saints!!
+
All saints' "Assurance" Of God's ETERNAL Salvation!
-----------------------------------------
* such (with NO PEACE!) Should "RE-Examine" themSELVES (2 Corinthians 13:5), Correct?
God's Simple Will!

Grace And Peace...