Since Jehovah's Witnesses reject the deity of Christ and the Trinity they cannot claim to be "real" Christians. The "doctrine of Christ" is the key to separate real Christians from those who claim to be Christians. See the second epistle of John.
Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?
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Grailhunter
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A lot of denominations out there, but you are not going to find a Jehovah Baptist, or a Jehovah Pentecost. There is a reason for that. Christians have a tendency to focus on Christ, as the name implies.
The Jehovah’s witnesses focus on a god named Jehovah…..which is funny that they do not know God Father’s name….since their religion is all about God the Father. The fact is that there is no person, place, or thing that starts with J in scriptures, it is all Y’s. And they pretend that they know the scriptures.
Yahwists would be a better name for them, because…..
The Jews are monotheistic….believing in one God….they do not believe in hell….they do not celebrate Christian holidays and the do not require Christian weddings.
The same is true of Jehovah’s Witnesses…
Their religion focuses on Yahweh and de-emphasis Yeshua….Just a man, a prophet, not a God. So they only have one God in there beliefs…. they do not believe in hell….they do not celebrate Christian holidays and the do not require Christian weddings.
So they are more Jewish than Christian. They could call themselves Yahwists. The Old Testament told of a human Messiah, so they could call themselves Messianic Jews or Messianic Yahwists.
But calling them Christians would just be wrong.
The Jehovah’s witnesses focus on a god named Jehovah…..which is funny that they do not know God Father’s name….since their religion is all about God the Father. The fact is that there is no person, place, or thing that starts with J in scriptures, it is all Y’s. And they pretend that they know the scriptures.
Yahwists would be a better name for them, because…..
The Jews are monotheistic….believing in one God….they do not believe in hell….they do not celebrate Christian holidays and the do not require Christian weddings.
The same is true of Jehovah’s Witnesses…
Their religion focuses on Yahweh and de-emphasis Yeshua….Just a man, a prophet, not a God. So they only have one God in there beliefs…. they do not believe in hell….they do not celebrate Christian holidays and the do not require Christian weddings.
So they are more Jewish than Christian. They could call themselves Yahwists. The Old Testament told of a human Messiah, so they could call themselves Messianic Jews or Messianic Yahwists.
But calling them Christians would just be wrong.
tigger 2
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from post #22 above:
"The Jehovah’s witnesses focus on a god named Jehovah…..which is funny that they do not know God Father’s name….since their religion is all about God the Father. The fact is that there is no person, place, or thing that starts with J in scriptures, it is all Y’s. And they pretend that they know the scriptures.
"Yahwists would be a better name for them"
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Most 'Christian' religions focus on a God named Jesus .... which is funny that they do not know the Son of God's name .... since their religion is all about the Son of God. The fact is that there is no person, place, or thing that starts with J in scriptures, it is all Y's. And they pretend to know scriptures.
"Yeshuists would be a better name for them"
"The Jehovah’s witnesses focus on a god named Jehovah…..which is funny that they do not know God Father’s name….since their religion is all about God the Father. The fact is that there is no person, place, or thing that starts with J in scriptures, it is all Y’s. And they pretend that they know the scriptures.
"Yahwists would be a better name for them"
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Most 'Christian' religions focus on a God named Jesus .... which is funny that they do not know the Son of God's name .... since their religion is all about the Son of God. The fact is that there is no person, place, or thing that starts with J in scriptures, it is all Y's. And they pretend to know scriptures.
"Yeshuists would be a better name for them"
quietthinker
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Then I suggest you would have something to say about him......the saying of which makes searchers for truth eyes go wide.
God does have an organized people as seen in those verses, and they are identified beyond any doubt in the Scriptures maam. He has had them since we agreed to His first covenant around 1500 BCE
If you cannot recognize the distinction of God's people, Mal 3:18, then who do you preach to?
No, Jesus stated very clearly we would recognize his disciples, and yes we do know our brothers and sisters. While I hope you are right, and God accepts people of all faiths, that has no scriptural support, in fact quite the opposite.
Thanks Enoch, who is the God of Jesus, and who did Jesus say we are to worship exclusively? Would not real Christians be obedient to his teachings sir?
Get serious sir, I have been posting here for quite some time now, do you have a tabulation of the number of times I have spoken about Jesus? Sometimes people amaze me. You see when you want to mislead someone through lies, it is impossible to do when everything is in writing. You simply expose yourself.
atpollard
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Yes.
The real question is “what purpose would be served by doing so?”
Would any JW seriously reconsider the deity of Christ?
Would any Christian seriously consider accepting those that reject Jesus as LORD (like JW and Muslims) as being Christians?
Since neither side is interested in changing beliefs, nothing but confusion can be gained by changing the definition of terms like “Christian”.
quietthinker
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The flavour of knowing is one unknown to religious yada yada......yet they know it not.......just like Paul prior to the road to Damascus.
The door is not shut yet sir. I am always glad to reason on Scripture. I can tell you point blank, that Jesus is not God, so if you think you can present evidence to support that, you will not be able to AT.
atpollard
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... and my point is made with an exclamation point!
I am in your debt.
I could not have proven the futility of the debate better myself.
(For the sake of those playing along on the HOME EDITION of "Is Jesus God?" ... all of the native speakers in the crowd that heard EXACTLY what Jesus said and collected stones to kill Jesus for claiming equality with God disagree with JW conclusion and scholarship of their language. One is free to doubt that Jesus IS GOD, but one cannot honestly doubt that Jesus CLAIMED TO BE God.)
tigger 2
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............................................................. and my point is made with an exclamation point!
I am in your debt.
I could not have proven the futility of the debate better myself.
(For the sake of those playing along on the HOME EDITION of "Is Jesus God?" ... all of the native speakers in the crowd that heard EXACTLY what Jesus said and collected stones to kill Jesus for claiming equality with God disagree with JW conclusion and scholarship of their language. One is free to doubt that Jesus IS GOD, but one cannot honestly doubt that Jesus CLAIMED TO BE God.)
Jesus never claimed to be God or even equal to God. You are dangerously mistaken.
atpollard
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As I said, the Jews that wanted to stone Him disagree with you.
For that matter, so does the Apostle John who parallels Christ with Genesis 1:1.
quietthinker
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Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?
Real Christians, hmmmmm. Let's define some hoops to jump through!
Real Christians, hmmmmm. Let's define some hoops to jump through!
The Bible has already established the hoops. If you don't like them then that's something else.
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