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You are mistaken Drop, Mat 4:10 Jesus very clearly stated God's name. He stated at Jn 17:6,26 that he made God's name known, Father is a title that applies to God, Jehovah however is His name, personally selected by Him I might add Ex 3:15
I don't disagree with any of that sir, so may I ask once again, do you have an example of where you feel we fall short L3? I believe I have to make full proof of my ministry 2 Tim 4:5, so put me to the test, I will give you the scriptural reason we believe as we do.
A belief is a thought, believed. So belief is based on, believing thoughts.
You are very correct Phil, a belief is simply that, right or wrong, fact or fiction. So If I state something and post a Scripture, the Scripture is truth, but you have to decide if my explanation of it is correct, or false. Jesus sent his disciples, but you decide whether what we say is true or false Acts 17:11.
Jesus stated at Mat 4:10 it is written, so what was the writing that Jesus quoted there Drop? Remember the Bible doesn't exist, you are looking at a version that chose to remove God's name even if it was quoted from the Hebrew Scriptures that had God's name in it. The New World Translation, includes it in quoted Hebrew passages if it was there.
That Phil is correct is another assumption, a belief.
That is not what I asked you sir, I asked you what Jesus quoted, is there a reason why you didn't answer that, or an explanation why all those versions you posted altered what Jesus quoted Drop?The New World Translation is just the JW's version, so you're outnumbered by the versions that don't use the word 'Jehovah in Matt 4:10...
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No sir, in this case it is a fact, as there is only two choices. That can apply in other ares but as anyone should be able to observe, when there is only two options one has to be correct. Perhaps you simply debate everything no matter what is stated, are you that type of individual Phil?
Thought can be let go, such that reality is ‘seen’ as it is, free of interpretations & beliefs.
It is alright if you don't know it sir, but not wanting to find out is another matter completely. That is the distinction between us Drop. Jesus quoted Deut 6:13, and of course he would never alter God's word when he spoke it, so obviously those translators of your versions you posted altered it. The NWT has Jehovah there, since it is in fact in the quoted verse. Why do you suppose that is sir?I answered your question by posting Matt 4:10 in a long list of bible versions, and Jesus never says 'Jehovah' in any of them..
Anyway look at it another way, God says all Christians are his children-
"What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?..Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord, I will be a Father to you, and you shall be my sons and daughters" (2 Cor 6:14-18)
and just as we'd never think of calling our earthly fathers by their christian names, I personally wouldn't want to call God by his alleged name 'Jehovah' because it just wouldn't feel right to do so.
But if the JW's want to call him Jehovah it's none of my business.
As for this threads title about whether JW's are real Christians, only God himself knows whether they or anybody else are true christians..
That could be applied to that “third option”… not believing the thoughts (‘correct’ & ‘incorrect’).
