Are You a Carnal Christian?

[GodsGrace]

If a man , woman or child who professes to Beleive on Christ
and yet lives in their sin
WHERE IS THE SPIRIT . If one has NOT the SPIRIT of CHRIST they are none of HIS
and if one has the SPIRIT then the body is dead because of sin .
He or she who walks in daily sin , WHERE IS THEIR CONVICTION , and why do they double down
on justifying sin . That is not a christain . That is lip service with a heart far from HIM .
I should know , i was once one of the worst my friend .

The beauty of GOD , of HIS HOLINESS
sure do change a heart . Worship GOD in the beauty of holiness by THE HOLY SPIRIT given
to the beleiver .
Where is the SPIRIT . Ye shall know them by their fruits .
The fruit of the wicked is TO sin
The Fruit of the SPIRIT is in all goodness , righteousness and TRUTH
proving what is acceptable TO GOD , not to this ever changing world .

Agreed on all.

 

[GodsGrace]

There are genuine Christians, and there are "nominal" Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers, and it's not hard to find them mixed together throughout scripture, in various churches today and on various Christian forum sites.

It must be asked:
What is a nominal Christian?
Would that be the same as a carnal Christian?

As to make believers,,,,that says it all.
a MAKE BELIEVE believer is NOT a believer.

It doesn't matter what/how a person SEEMS to US.
It matters how they ARE to GOD.

 

[mailmandan]

It must be asked:
What is a nominal Christian?
Would that be the same as a carnal Christian?

A Christian "in name only." In 1 Corinthians 3:1, some translations say carnal or freshly, which is in regard to being babes or infants in Christ.

As to make believers,,,,that says it all.
a MAKE BELIEVE believer is NOT a believer.

It doesn't matter what/how a person SEEMS to US.
It matters how they ARE to GOD.

Amen!

 

[amigo de christo]

There are genuine Christians, and there are "nominal" Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers, and it's not hard to find them mixed together throughout scripture, in various churches today and on various Christian forum sites.

a nominal christain would not have s urvived nominal in the presence
of the early church .
Meaning they had been corrected and right quickly too .
At which p oint either they would have left or repented .
THis allowance of not correcting under banner that it is judging
Has literally destroyed many a church from within .
AND i aint talking numbers either . In those churches they swell
but under what .........................Cause it aint GOD .
The truth is no person sits in a place that does not make them feel good .
The question is what makes a soul feel good . IS IT THE TRUTH OF GOD , or the twisted dung of men .
THAT BE THE QUESTION my friend .
As for the sheep , ITS ONLY at peace and at rest and filled and fullfilled BY THE TRUTH .
Dung doctrine leaves it real empty .
SO we better real quickly start examining ourselves and what it is we been loving all along .
May i suggest , YET AGAIN , bible time in the house .

 

[amigo de christo]

It must be asked:
What is a nominal Christian?
Would that be the same as a carnal Christian?

As to make believers,,,,that says it all.
a MAKE BELIEVE believer is NOT a believer.

It doesn't matter what/how a person SEEMS to US.
It matters how they ARE to GOD.

a nominal christain would not have s urvived nominal in the presence
of the early church .
Meaning they had been corrected and right quickly too .
At which p oint either they would have left or repented .
THis allowance of not correcting under banner that it is judging
Has literally destroyed many a church from within .
AND i aint talking numbers either . In those churches they swell
but under what .........................Cause it aint GOD .
The truth is no person sits in a place that does not make them feel good .
The question is what makes a soul feel good . IS IT THE TRUTH OF GOD , or the twisted dung of men .
THAT BE THE QUESTION my friend .
As for the sheep , ITS ONLY at peace and at rest and filled and fullfilled BY THE TRUTH .
Dung doctrine leaves it real empty .
SO we better real quickly start examining ourselves and what it is we been loving all along .
May i suggest , YET AGAIN , bible time in the house .

 

[amigo de christo]

There are genuine Christians, and there are "nominal" Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers, and it's not hard to find them mixed together throughout scripture, in various churches today and on various Christian forum sites.

verily verily i say unto thee
and what i say is for you and for me .
I have never seen a die hard political christain that is NOT NOMINAL .
pretty scary huh . tHIS IS a fact . now i aint saying non political are always TRUE either .
But i have never seen a die hard biden or trump fan that was not nominal .
THEY just dont realize they are and have been following men all along .

 

[amigo de christo]

A Christian "in name only." In 1 Corinthians 3:1, some translations say carnal or freshly, which is in regard to being babes or infants in Christ.

Amen!

Have you ever wondered why it is
this church age looks nothing like what we read in the bible about the true ones .
A hint
CAUSE THEY BEEN FOLLOWING MEN all along and have no idea its been men they follow
but beleive its OF GOD they follow . THIS is a fact .
And i do not say that to condemn anyone but rather to get us BACK to the BIBLE
to learn and to see and to be ref reshed daily IN THAT BOOK .
cause if folks would do this
IT WONT TAKE LONG before they had seen what i had seen . MEN BEEN FLEECING US ALL for a long long time .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Have you ever wondered why it is
this church age looks nothing like what we read in the bible about the true ones .
A hint
CAUSE THEY BEEN FOLLOWING MEN all along and have no idea its been men they follow
but beleive its OF GOD they follow . THIS is a fact .
And i do not say that to condemn anyone but rather to get us BACK to the BIBLE
to learn and to see and to be ref reshed daily IN THAT BOOK .
cause if folks would do this
IT WONT TAKE LONG before they had seen what i had seen . MEN BEEN FLEECING US ALL for a long long time .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Have you ever wondered why it is
this church age looks nothing like what we read in the bible about the true ones .
A hint
CAUSE THEY BEEN FOLLOWING MEN all along and have no idea its been men they follow
but beleive its OF GOD they follow . THIS is a fact .
And i do not say that to condemn anyone but rather to get us BACK to the BIBLE
to learn and to see and to be ref reshed daily IN THAT BOOK .
cause if folks would do this
IT WONT TAKE LONG before they had seen what i had seen . MEN BEEN FLEECING US ALL for a long long time .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo
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You spot on right THEY DO .
they rather love those that wont correct and even preach the things that fit their own lifestyle , hopes and pipe dreams
IN THIS WORLD .
But not the sheep . OH they have no peace , no rest , no fullfillment
but only vexation of soul under dung doctrine .

 

[Wrangler]

Ever watched the Devils Advocate on TV. Listen to how his dad says things carfully ! yes the show is correct.

A friend of mind observed there is also such a thing as the Angel's Advocate. Odd that this does not get as much play.

angel's advocate (plural angel's advocates or angels' advocates)

1. (idiomatic) Someone who sees what is good about an idea and supports it.

Antonyms​

• devil's advocate

 

[amigo de christo]

A friend of mind observed there is also such a thing as the Angel's Advocate. Odd that this does not get as much play.

angel's advocate (plural angel's advocates or angels' advocates)

1. (idiomatic) Someone who sees what is good about an idea and supports it.

Antonyms​

• devil's advocate

a nominal christain would not have s urvived nominal in the presence
of the early church .
Meaning they had been corrected and right quickly too .
At which p oint either they would have left or repented .
THis allowance of not correcting under banner that it is judging
Has literally destroyed many a church from within .
AND i aint talking numbers either . In those churches they swell
but under what .........................Cause it aint GOD .
The truth is no person sits in a place that does not make them feel good .
The question is what makes a soul feel good . IS IT THE TRUTH OF GOD , or the twisted dung of men .
THAT BE THE QUESTION my friend .
As for the sheep , ITS ONLY at peace and at rest and filled and fullfilled BY THE TRUTH .
Dung doctrine leaves it real empty .
SO we better real quickly start examining ourselves and what it is we been loving all along .
May i suggest , YET AGAIN , bible time in the house .

 

[amigo de christo]

A friend of mind observed there is also such a thing as the Angel's Advocate. Odd that this does not get as much play.

angel's advocate (plural angel's advocates or angels' advocates)

1. (idiomatic) Someone who sees what is good about an idea and supports it.

Antonyms​

• devil's advocate

Sadly the main problem with a lot of christaianity is
THEY rushing to take a seat at the table , JESUS WOULD HAVE FLIPPED over .
And on HIS day will do much more than that .
Someone gotta do something and fast . I been trying but man most folks dont want to hear a word .
Time to call on volunteers . We gots to do something now .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Sadly the main problem with a lot of christaianity is
THEY rushing to take a seat at the table , JESUS WOULD HAVE FLIPPED over .
And on HIS day will do much more than that .
Someone gotta do something and fast . I been trying but man most folks dont want to hear a word .
Time to call on volunteers . We gots to do something now .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

a nominal christain would not have s urvived nominal in the presence
of the early church .
Meaning they had been corrected and right quickly too .
At which p oint either they would have left or repented .
THis allowance of not correcting under banner that it is judging
Has literally destroyed many a church from within .
AND i aint talking numbers either . In those churches they swell
but under what .........................Cause it aint GOD .
The truth is no person sits in a place that does not make them feel good .
The question is what makes a soul feel good . IS IT THE TRUTH OF GOD , or the twisted dung of men .
THAT BE THE QUESTION my friend .
As for the sheep , ITS ONLY at peace and at rest and filled and fullfilled BY THE TRUTH .
Dung doctrine leaves it real empty .
SO we better real quickly start examining ourselves and what it is we been loving all along .
May i suggest , YET AGAIN , bible time in the house .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

If a man , woman or child who professes to Beleive on Christ
and yet lives in their sin
WHERE IS THE SPIRIT . If one has NOT the SPIRIT of CHRIST they are none of HIS
and if one has the SPIRIT then the body is dead because of sin .
He or she who walks in daily sin , WHERE IS THEIR CONVICTION , and why do they double down
on justifying sin . That is not a christain . That is lip service with a heart far from HIM .
I should know , i was once one of the worst my friend .

The beauty of GOD , of HIS HOLINESS
sure do change a heart . Worship GOD in the beauty of holiness by THE HOLY SPIRIT given
to the beleiver .
Where is the SPIRIT . Ye shall know them by their fruits .
The fruit of the wicked is TO sin
The Fruit of the SPIRIT is in all goodness , righteousness and TRUTH
proving what is acceptable TO GOD , not to this ever changing world .

@amigo de christo

 

[LoveYeshua]

You must over come !

Gen 4 says. but you must master it. because Sin crouch at the door !

I do not see how, one could rule over it ?

All people are clearly Slaves to Sin untill they are truly born again and form that point on you learn to master such ! but to Rule over it ? come on ? it clearly does not work that way.

well you can ask God tonight in your prayers, I did not write it it is in Gen 4:7 here is the full verse;

Gen 4:7 (BSB) If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you refuse to do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires you, but you must master it.”

New King James Version
If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it.”

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

well you can ask God tonight in your prayers, I did not write it it is in Gen 4:7 here is the full verse;

Gen 4:7 (BSB) If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you refuse to do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires you, but you must master it.”

New King James Version
If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it.”

I reject the NKJV. I have the AKJV. and have no regard for the NKJV and other new age nonsense trash versions. that's clealy a loss of clarity.

As in, What shall we rule over ? I would think that we should not rule over anything ! bar for Grace ? that is that, that is truly over all ?

In the Devils Advocate Show, I think he is the one who says about, to Rule over ! I have too have another look see.

I would clearly think that One has to master it ! because, how can we Rule over it ? I think that if we were to try and Rule over such, then we would become one with the Devil ? It's that tricky in fact !
Dealing with the Devil is very tricky possition. so is dealing with Anti-Christ !

One may over come such ? I believe the Bible points to such.
But never could one truly Rule over it ?

Such as Sin crouches at you door ? see, so it's ever pressent ?
In the Show, we see that the son over came such but then again his dad ? was happy in the end, for his son lost grip on the subject and came back into Play once again. and was laughing again.

Watch the Show. and you will see just how nice the Devils Advocate comes across ?

 

[Wrangler]

What is a nominal Christian?
Would that be the same as a carnal Christian?

No, a nominal Christian is not the same as a carnal Christian.

An overly-spiritualized Christian is one who says you should stay warm and eat well but not actually do anything to help the person do that. Therefore, a nominal Christian is more akin to an overly-spiritualized Christian who says they believe in good things but don't lift a finger to make it happen.

How a nominal Christian differs from an overly-spiritualized Christian, is they limit their involvement of Christianity to cultural events, like showing up to church on Christmas and Easter and call themselves a Christian but that identity does not affect their life in any meaningful way as to be distinguishable from heathens.

A carnal Christian will get his hands dirty in giving a helping hand. Maybe sweat and frequently need forgiveness. I've been told by a Pastor that if you are not failing to reflect Christ in losing your patience, getting angry, saying things that are out of line, then you aren't trying hard enough. The overly-spiritualized Christian is above it all; they say the right things but do little if anything in practice to help the body of Christ, the down trodden.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

A friend of mind observed there is also such a thing as the Angel's Advocate. Odd that this does not get as much play.

angel's advocate (plural angel's advocates or angels' advocates)

1. (idiomatic) Someone who sees what is good about an idea and supports it.

Antonyms​

• devil's advocate

A person who advocates an opposing or unpopuler view. often for the sake of an argument. Is what I thought such was.

Lets say in another way, if you were to teach an apprentice correctly ? one would have to put up issues of why you do things in regards why it is to be done just as so ? or that it has to be done as so ! with very good reason !
So when one has mastered the art of such, they totaly know why ! for if a fool did the job ? a master will know why such failed.