ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAL THE SICK?

[MatthewG]

Oh brother, me too. But I'm gonna do my best to feel good until that happens.

Cool. I’m gonna play Pubg with a friend, currently. It’s a battle ground game, kind of survival esk.


you know Jesus said whoever believes in me will never die, but no one on this earth has ever lived forever.

Guess it’s in the next life, good to build up spiritual treasures in heaven while we go through.

Living by the spirit, and loving our neighbor as ourselves .

The last thing I ever want to give someone is false hope.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Funny; that's all fake. But entertaining.

No, it's not entertaining - it's deception!

divine healing not faith healers

James 5:14
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Too bad most churches now teach false doctrine being over seen by false elders.

Why isn't everyone healed ? I don't have that answer

Lack of knowledge (Hosea 4:6), being in unbelief and being double minded (James 1:5-8), unable to see and understand (Proverbs 29:18) as a result of false teaching (lots of secessionists lying to people these days claiming God doesn't heal physically anymore - usually calvinists so nobody important or anything)

Another reason is many are living in sin and are not in right standing with the Lord.

They would need to repent of their sin and get right with the Lord which is the Lord's top priority so they don't end up in hell.

 

[MatthewG]

James 5:14
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Too bad most churches now teach false doctrine being over seen by false elders.

Unsurprisingly, I stepped in a to church that had only about 8 people left in it before he sold it off, he was nice enough to give me a Concordance for free.

Either way, the old man said "I see the holy spirit in you." I took no credit other than just surprised, there was one day I went in there high off marijuana, and I told the pastor about it haha. Either way, the next time I went in there, they thought I was sick cause of some of my beliefs, and this is exactly what happend.

8 people standing around me, with one pouring some oil on my head, and nothing ever really changed.

Just a moment in time I'll never forget, and never understand why it was part of my life.

Though I find thankfulness, and blessing through all the ups and downs, no matter how odd they were.

 

[Doug]

Actually Jesus taught the New Covenant which was for Jews and gentiles alike.

I dont know what verse/verses you are referring to....care to give them to me

 

[rebuilder 454]

Ive heard some bogus stories in my life...

People healing peoples sight.
People healing their backs.
People healing their guts.

Man, then afterwards, their guts still hurt, backs still hurt, sight still blind.

Fake healings, fake facades.... oh but they believe they did something....

It's all a con, sure Dopamine feels great, but at the same time it only last for a moment of time, and everything goes back to the way it was.

Your body is gonna die.

Jesus cursed the pharisees for diminishing God's power.

 

[Doug]

The Holy Spirit leads me. I do not honor myself; I only give God the Glory. It is He who heals; I'm the vessel. I'm not going to take any credit or keep a scorecard on all that have been healed. The gift is from God and belongs to Him.

Thanks for answering
Please bear with me.............. how does the Spirit lead you ............ why do you think these people are being healed

 

[rebuilder 454]

You're no going to start blowing on people and knocking them down are you?

What are you and Doug going to do when you need a miracle from a God that is weak and can not heal?

 

[MatthewG]

Jesus cursed the pharisees for diminishing God's power.

While I believe people have the freedoms to believe whatever they want. I don't believe anyone can prove they have ever actually healed a human being.

If Yahavah has healed you, that is all fine and great, you are still gonna die. So I wouldn't live on a miracle, but faith and continuing until the day one does.

Im gonna die regardless if I get better or stay sick. Faith in Yahavah is what saves a person, to the Kingdom of heaven, and have a direct connection with him.

If he was to heal me great, if not, great... Everyone who has ever lived for Yahavah has always died.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Pretty sure all hyperpaulines are cessationist.

God is on vacation.
No more miracles

 

[MatthewG]

Pretty sure all hyperpaulines are cessationist.

God is on vacation.
No more miracles

I believe miracles can happen, but that is not the primary focus of a relationship with Yahavah.

Or God, cause no one ever uses his name.

 

[rebuilder 454]

While I believe people have the freedoms to believe whatever they want. I don't believe anyone can prove they have ever actually healed a human being.

If Yahavah has healed you, that is all fine and great, you are still gonna die. So I wouldn't live on a miracle, but faith and continuing until the day one does.

Im gonna die regardless if I get better or stay sick. Faith in Yahavah is what saves a person, to the Kingdom of heaven, and have a direct connection with him.

If he was to heal me great, if not, great... Everyone who has ever lived for Yahavah has always died.

Healing is part of the covenant.

Transpose that attitude you have onto salvation.
"If he wants to save me great, if not, great...."

Well you will get nothing from God.

The man of faith recieves ...

The unlearned man believes healing is not part of the new covenant.

And hates the power of God.

 

[rebuilder 454]

I believe miracles can happen, but that is not the primary focus of a relationship with Yahavah.

Or God, cause no one ever uses his name.

There is barely a chapter in Acts where the gospel is not accompanied by miracles signs and wonders.

The primary focus?
How about the casting down of miracles signs and wonders.

There is a ditch On both sides of the road, if so I can go to extreme on one end. And end up in the ditch. And I can go to an extreme on the other side and end up in the ditch.
I don't have to be on either one I can run straight down the middle.

 

[MatthewG]

Healing is part of the covenant.

Transpose that attitude you have onto salvation.
"If he wants to save me great, if not, great...."

Well you will get nothing from God.

The man of faith recieves ...

The unlearned man believes healing is not part of the new covenant.

And hates the power of God.

There is barely a chapter in Acts where the gospel is not accompanied by miracles signs and wonders.

The primary focus?
How about the casting down of miracles signs and wonders.

There is a ditch On both sides of the road, if so I can go to extreme on one end. And end up in the ditch. And I can go to an extreme on the other side and end up in the ditch.
I don't have to be on either one I can run straight down the middle.

Okay judge.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Okay judge.

Info is not your enemy

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I dont know what verse/verses you are referring to....care to give them to me

Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

So John the Baptist, Jesus, and all of His Apostles taught the Gospel of the Kingdom

They did not teach the law and the prophets

In fact, Jesus took the old covenant away in order to establish the New Covenant

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

What are you and Doug going to do when you need a miracle from a God that is weak and can not heal?

I don't need a miracle because I walk in the Power of God's promises thru the Holy Spirit 24/7 so I remain well at all times so I won't need a miracle.

Most people ignore God's promises and life unhealthy lifestyles and only when they get sick do they seek the Lord for healing.

In other words, they live for self most of the time and then try to get serious about walking with the Lord when they get in to trouble.

That's slow! We should be walking with the Lord at all times meditating, speaking, and acting on His Word all the time and looking for opportunities to share the Word of the Lord with others at all times.

God's best is to walk with Him at all times and never be in need of a miracle as we walk in His miracle power continually.

I believe miracles can happen, but that is not the primary focus of a relationship with Yahavah.

Does using a little Hebrew here and there, does that really make one closer to the Lord resulting in more party favors from the Lord as the hebrews roots followers claim?

 

[MatthewG]

Does using a little Hebrew here and there, does that really make one closer to the Lord resulting in more party favors from the Lord as the hebrews roots followers claim?

I just like to use them. God is a title, not a name. God has a name so therefore I use it, because I like to use his name.

The name "Yahavah" is used to refer to God in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament. It means "Presence," "Breath," "Life," and "Love," and also signifies that God is an ever-present help for us.

@Big Boy Johnson

 

[Doug]

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

The new covenant in Jeremiah refers only to Israel....they will come into the land and be given a new heart to obey the law

 

[MatthewG]

The new covenant in Jeremiah refers only to Israel....they will come into the land and be given a new heart to obey the law

I believe it refers how Yahavah will interact with the world itself.

By writing on the minds and hearts of those whom are his.

But if you a person whom is "ISRAEL" only I understand. Paul stated "Not all of Isarel is Israel."

Meaning being part of Heavenly Jerusalem -

Hebrews 12:
But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to a place where thousands of angels have gathered to celebrate. You have come to the meeting of God’s firstborn children. Their names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the judge of all people. And you have come to the spirits of good people who have been made perfect. You have come to Jesus—the one who brought the new agreement from God to his people. You have come to the sprinkled blood that tells us about better things than the blood of Abel.

 

[Doug]

I believe it refers how Yahavah will interact with the world itself.

By writing on the minds and hearts of those whom are his.

But if you a person whom is "ISRAEL" only I understand. Paul stated "Not all of Isarel is Israel."

Meaning being part of Heavenly Jerusalem -

Hebrews 12:
But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to a place where thousands of angels have gathered to celebrate. You have come to the meeting of God’s firstborn children. Their names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the judge of all people. And you have come to the spirits of good people who have been made perfect. You have come to Jesus—the one who brought the new agreement from God to his people. You have come to the sprinkled blood that tells us about better things than the blood of Abel.

[Jer 31:31 KJV] 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

The new covenant is not made with the world, but with the house of Israel

Paul is saying not all Israel means the Israel of God is comprised of the Israel of faith

 

[MatthewG]

[Jer 31:31 KJV] 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

The new covenant is not made with the world, but with the house of Israel

Paul is saying not all Israel means the Israel of God is comprised of the Israel of faith

Hey Doug,

I am someone who just believes Yahavah is calling to all people today.

Regardless if a person knows everything about Jesus, or perhaps they dont even got a bible to read.

Yahavah can connect to those whom look towards him, and those who are absent of him, Yahavah continues to call out to all for those who are willingly to turn to him.

He will write on their hearts and minds.