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And that was revealed to you by The Holy Spirit. Where is The Father and The Son(Jesus) in the person of The Holt Spirit in all these videos and teachings?Amazing how rarely you mention what really matters-the Holy Spirit.
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And that was revealed to you by The Holy Spirit. Where is The Father and The Son(Jesus) in the person of The Holt Spirit in all these videos and teachings?Amazing how rarely you mention what really matters-the Holy Spirit.
Sis...I’m on a different path to you...There's a difference between what has been imputed to us and what we have actually apprehended isn't there though....? In order to grow and take more ground in our life and heart we need to acknowledge and confess our sins as sins......in order to not only be forgiven of whatever sin we are confessing......but also in order to be cleansed of it as we seek to apprehend and bring down to our earth (earthen vessel) what has been laid up for us in "heaven", in spirit.
And I will say this......that the Lord longsuffers us while we are children in the faith ("suffer the little children")....but if we are still behaving as little children, sinning, when by now we ought to have become adults long ago......it puts out souls in danger....His spirit doesn't strive with man forever.....it has a limit. Pretending we don't sin or have sin, when we actually do, inhibits the growth that we need to be engaging in.
| Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. New Living Translation But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means. English Standard Version The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. Berean Standard Bible The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. Berean Literal Bible But the natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he is not able to understand them, because spiritually they are discerned |
Incorrect.We are Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Holy Spirit...the Written word makes no one’s spirit Born Again.
| Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. New Living Translation But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means. English Standard Version The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. Berean Standard Bible The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. Berean Literal Bible But the natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he is not able to understand them, because spiritually they are discerned |
You are in error on not reading/hearing the God-breathed Scriptures-The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
(2 Peter 1:1–2) 1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the elect who are exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosena 2according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. A Living Hope 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in various trials 7so that the proven character of your faith—more precious than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 8Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9now that you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls. 10Concerning this salvation, the prophets who foretold the grace to come to you searched and investigated carefully, 11trying to determine the time and setting to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow. 12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, when they foretold the things now announced by those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things. A Call to Holiness (Hebrews 12:14–17) 13Therefore prepare your minds for action.c Be sober-minded. Set your hope fully on the grace to be given you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14As obedient children, do not conform to the passions of your former ignorance. 15But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, 16for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”d 17Since you call on a Father who judges each one’s work impartially, conduct yourselves in reverent fear during your stay as foreigners. 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or spot. 20He was known before the foundation of the world, but was revealed in the last times for your sake. 21Through Him you believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and glorified Him; and so your faith and hope are in God. The Enduring Word (Isaiah 40:6–8) 22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For, “All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, 25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f And this is the word that was proclaimed to you. |
| 1 Corinthians 12 ► |
1Now about spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed. 2You know that when you were pagans, you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3Therefore I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. 4There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. 5There are different ministries, but the same Lord. 6There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all people. 7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines. The Body of Christ 12The body is a unit, though it is composed of many parts. And although its parts are many, they all form one body. So it is with Christ. 13For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free, and we were all given one Spirit to drink. 14For the body does not consist of one part, but of many. 15If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 17If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18But in fact, God has arranged the members of the body, every one of them, according to His design. 19If they were all one part, where would the body be?20As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 21The eye cannot say to the hand, “I do not need you.” Nor can the head say to the feet, “I do not need you.” 22On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23and the parts we consider less honorable, we treat with greater honor. And our unpresentable parts are treated with special modesty,24whereas our presentable parts have no such need. But God has composed the body and has given greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25so that there should be no division in the body, but that its members should have mutual concern for one another. 26If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. The Greater Gifts 27Now you are the body of Christ, and each of you is a member of it. 28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, and those with gifts of healing, helping, administration, and various tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? 31But eagerly desire the greater gifts. And now I will show you the most excellent way. |
Rather quote reams and reams of Scriptures than go on "strange fire"The Bible is Gods written word..I’m afraid it doesn’t make our spirit Born Again.
You don’t need to read a Bible to be Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Holy Spirit..
That’s who makes our spirit Born Again...if you never read a Bible again, you will never die, because we have been Born Again.. we just won’t grow and mature...
Those who often post reams and reams of scripture, when asked what that scripture means..they can’t explain as they lack spiritual understanding...they can only understand in their human intellect.
| 1 Corinthians 12 ► |
1Now about spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed. 2You know that when you were pagans, you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3Therefore I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. 4There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. 5There are different ministries, but the same Lord. 6There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all people. 7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines. The Body of Christ 12The body is a unit, though it is composed of many parts. And although its parts are many, they all form one body. So it is with Christ. 13For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free, and we were all given one Spirit to drink. 14For the body does not consist of one part, but of many. 15If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 17If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18But in fact, God has arranged the members of the body, every one of them, according to His design. 19If they were all one part, where would the body be?20As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 21The eye cannot say to the hand, “I do not need you.” Nor can the head say to the feet, “I do not need you.” 22On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23and the parts we consider less honorable, we treat with greater honor. And our unpresentable parts are treated with special modesty,24whereas our presentable parts have no such need. But God has composed the body and has given greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25so that there should be no division in the body, but that its members should have mutual concern for one another. 26If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. The Greater Gifts 27Now you are the body of Christ, and each of you is a member of it. 28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, and those with gifts of healing, helping, administration, and various tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? 31But eagerly desire the greater gifts. And now I will show you the most excellent way. |
Sorry-you cannot "divorce" the Scriptures from your "experience"You never have to read a Bible to become Born Again that is an untruth..
Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit is the only one who can make our spirit Born Again.
The written word tells you how you can become Born Again...but you can only understand the written word by becoming Born Of God’s seed by His Living Holy Spirit..
The Living witness of God His Holy Spirit backs up Gods written word....once your spirit has become Born Again by His Spirit...just as His word says.
1When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power. Spiritual Wisdom (Ephesians 1:15–23) 6Among the mature, however, we speak a message of wisdom—but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God,a which He destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9Rather, as it is written: “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.”b 10But God has revealed it to us by the Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.c 14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?”d But we have the mind of Christ. |
Neglecting context-1When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.
Spiritual Wisdom
(Ephesians 1:15–23)
6Among the mature, however, we speak a message of wisdom—but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God,a which He destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9Rather, as it is written:
“No eye has seen,
no ear has heard,
no heart has imagined,
what God has prepared for those who love Him.”b
10But God has revealed it to us by the Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.c
14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?”d But we have the mind of Christ.
How did you become Born Again?Neglecting context-
The context provided is from 1 Corinthians 2:1-16, where the apostle Paul addresses the Corinthians regarding his approach to preaching the gospel. Here's a breakdown of the passage:
Paul's Approach to Preaching (vv. 1-5):
Paul emphasizes that he did not rely on human eloquence or wisdom when he proclaimed the testimony about God. Instead, he focused solely on Jesus Christ and His crucifixion. Paul acknowledges his own weakness and fear but emphasizes the demonstration of the Spirit's power in his preaching, aiming to ground the Corinthians' faith in God's power rather than human wisdom.
Contrasting Human and Spiritual Wisdom (vv. 6-9):
Paul distinguishes between the wisdom of this age, which is fleeting and ultimately futile, and the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God, destined for the glory of believers. He highlights that this divine wisdom was concealed from the rulers of this age, who failed to recognize Jesus as the Lord of glory.
Revelation by the Spirit (vv. 10-13):
Paul explains that God has revealed His wisdom to believers through His Spirit, who searches the deep things of God. The Spirit enables believers to understand and grasp the truths freely given by God, which are expressed in spiritual words. This revelation contrasts with human wisdom and teaching.
Spiritual Discernment (vv. 14-16):
Paul contrasts the natural man, who cannot accept or understand the things of the Spirit, with the spiritual man, who discerns spiritual truths. He emphasizes that the spiritual man has the mind of Christ and is not subject to human judgment. Paul quotes Isaiah to underscore the incomprehensibility of God's wisdom to human understanding.
Conclusion:
In this passage, Paul emphasizes the superiority of divine wisdom revealed by the Spirit over human wisdom. He underscores the transformative power of the gospel and the necessity of spiritual discernment in understanding and embracing God's truth. The passage highlights the central role of the Holy Spirit in revealing and illuminating God's wisdom to believers, enabling them to grasp the depth of His purposes and plans.
J.
Very, very unbiblical statement--Reading the word and posting scripture doesn’t make our spirit Born Again.
As you have been Born Of God’s seed..are you not able to explain what in you has been Born Again..Very, very unbiblical statement--
The phrase "sword of the Spirit" appears in Ephesians 6:17 and is part of the metaphor Paul uses to describe the armor of God. Let's delve into an exegetical analysis of this phrase, incorporating Greek word studies, syntax, morphology, and cross-references.
Ephesians 6:17: The Sword of the Spirit
Context:
Ephesians 6:10-18 is a passage where Paul instructs believers to put on the full armor of God to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. Each piece of armor represents a spiritual truth or resource provided by God.
Ephesians 6:17 (ESV): "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God."
Greek Word Studies:
Sword (μάχαιρα, machaira):
This term refers to a short sword or dagger used in close combat. It emphasizes precision and effectiveness in spiritual warfare.
Spirit (πνεῦμα, pneuma):
Refers to the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Trinity, who empowers and guides believers.
Word (ῥῆμα, rhēma):
This term specifically refers to the spoken word, a declaration, or a specific statement. It differs from "λόγος" (logos), which generally means the overall message or the written Word of God.
Syntax and Morphology:
Sword of the Spirit: The genitive case ("of the Spirit") indicates possession or source, meaning that the sword belongs to or is given by the Holy Spirit.
Which is the word of God: This phrase explains what the sword of the Spirit represents. The relative pronoun "which" (ὅ ἐστιν, ho estin) directly links the sword to the word of God, emphasizing the identification of the two.
Cross-References and Theological Implications:
Hebrews 4:12:
"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart."
This verse underscores the power and penetrating ability of the word of God, likened to a sharp sword.
Matthew 4:1-11:
Jesus uses specific scriptures (ῥῆμα) to counter Satan's temptations, demonstrating the use of God's word as a weapon in spiritual battles.
Revelation 1:16; 19:15:
Describes a sharp two-edged sword coming out of Jesus' mouth, symbolizing the power of His word in judgment and warfare.
Isaiah 49:2:
"He made my mouth like a sharpened sword, in the shadow of his hand he hid me; he made me into a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver."
This Old Testament reference links the prophetic word to a sharp sword, illustrating its power and effectiveness.
Application:
The "sword of the Spirit" in Ephesians 6:17 represents the word of God as a weapon given by the Holy Spirit to believers for spiritual warfare. This weapon is not a physical sword but a spiritual tool that can be used to counter the lies, temptations, and attacks of the enemy.
Key Points:
Living and Active: The word of God is not static but dynamic, able to penetrate deeply into our hearts and discern our innermost thoughts (Hebrews 4:12).
Used by Jesus: Jesus Himself used scripture to combat Satan's temptations, setting an example for believers (Matthew 4:1-11).
Given by the Spirit: The Holy Spirit empowers believers to understand and wield this weapon effectively, ensuring that the word of God is applied accurately and powerfully in various situations.
Conclusion:
The "sword of the Spirit" signifies the powerful and active word of God, which the Holy Spirit equips believers to use in spiritual warfare. It emphasizes the importance of knowing, understanding, and speaking God's word in our daily battles against spiritual forces. By engaging with the Scriptures, believers are armed with divine truth that cuts through deception and brings victory in their spiritual walk.
Tell me Senorita-since you have such a strong aversion to the written word-how do you engage in warfare?
J.