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I have a problem with OBE. Not whether it's right or wrong per se, but the "mechanism" behind it. How can the soul be parted from the body? The same goes for the spirit.
It should not be our concern to get caught up with the mechanisms or science behind this or any other phenomenon. It’s not that it isn’t allowed to know this, but our focus should be Christ. If He wants to take your spirit on a ride for awhile and leave your body in limbo for a sec then what is that to Him. To think it incapable just because you can’t understand it is no impedance to Him who created the parts. Also what of death? Does your spirit linger at your decomposing remains?(tim_from_pa;31540)
I compare a person to a computer (roughly). Hardware is body, software is soul, and power to run it is spirit. The dividing line between all three is not always clear cut, as some software can be physically represented in the hardware, or again, it may be no more than "one's and zero's" stored by the power in RAM where there's no physical counterpart.
I think it’s safe to say that computers do not suffice for the comparison of God’s creation molded in His image. I do understand where you are going. But based on that analogy try to explain walking on water, raising the dead, walking through walls, turning water to wine, breaking bread for thousands, or any of the other wonderful miracles that Christ and some of his apostles performed by the power of God.(tim_from_pa;31540)
Now, If I turn on my computer and my software boots up on Kriss' machine on the other end of the country without the use of a connection, then maybe I'll believe OBE is possible.
It’s really sad that it would take that to get you to believe in something that thousands if not millions, over time, have experienced including myself, a believer the same as you in Christ. And who is to say that there isn’t a connection that you can’t see? In your terms think of it as spiritual Wi-Fi.As well if no flesh can survive the glory of God, then what was John witnessing on that throne in heaven, was it not the One and Only?(Letsgofishing;31556)
But where do you get the power to perform OBEis it from God. Is it satanIs it from yourselfis it from other peoplewe really don't know and unless you know for sure that Something like that comes from God I would stay away from it.Because if its from satan your in troubleyour brother in christRyan Fitz
To be clear if I have not already made this distinction; I have never invoked this. I use to live in a trailer; I woke up outside of it one time out of my body and free to roam. I did not invoke this. I don’t have and have never had the option of staying away, it’s just happened to me. Sometimes I’ve felt it was from God, other times I knew it was Satan and yet others that it was just happening as naturally an occurring phenomenon as gravity. I was a firm believer at the time this happened. I’ve also woken up many times hovering above the ceiling however unable to move, and had to slowly wait for my spirit, soul, whatever technically it could be called, maybe my point of perception to fall back into my body. I praise God for the proof that I am not trapped to my mortal man and that the spirit far succeeds the flesh in its glory. Not that I needed the proof. The point is if something is from God he will let you know, I think He knows how His creation works. If that be OBE why fight it. Am I an unbeliever because I’ve had these experiences? I doubt it, but God will be the judge of that.