Astronomy or Astrology? Which did God give to us in the stars when He created them for signs?

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HeRoseFromTheDead

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Interesting. I will watch it later when I have better bandwidth.

I don't know if it was mentioned in the video, but that theory is based on two books: one by Seiss; one by Bullinger (Gospel in the Stars, Witness of the Stars). One was from England the other US, I think. They based their books on work done by a woman (Rollston, I think) who titled her writings Mazzaroth, or something like that. I truly believe Adam and his sons prophesied the message of Christ in the stars, which was then passed down to Abraham, IMO. They knew the flood was coming; they had to have a way of preserving the message. I personally think that is a major reason why Abraham had such extraordinary faith.
 

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I believe you are correct about Adam and Abraham ChristRoseFromTheDead
I myself don't know anything about the writings but I will take your word on those : )
 

HeRoseFromTheDead

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afaithfulone4u said:
I believe you are correct about Adam and Abraham ChristRoseFromTheDead
I myself don't know anything about the writings but I will take your word on those : )
I have the two books. You can download Mazzaroth here - http://www.prepare-ye-the-way.com/rolleston-mazzaroth.pdf

Interesting story regarding this. I was driving around the mountains of Colorado years ago with a brother, and during the conversation told him that the good news was written in the constellations. A short while later we passed a group of people going into a building out in the middle of nowhere. We decided to stop and visit after we realized it was a church. A guest speaker was giving a talk on - the gospel in the stars. After the talk I asked him where I could get the book I had read earlier. He told me and then gave me his own book on the subject. He seemed confused or something at my questions, and then the leader of the congregation said to him, 'He's not one of us'. That blew his mind, and we all started praising GOD. and singing 'How great thou are'.
 

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
I have the two books. You can download Mazzaroth here - http://www.prepare-ye-the-way.com/rolleston-mazzaroth.pdf

Interesting story regarding this. I was driving around the mountains of Colorado years ago with a brother, and during the conversation told him that the good news was written in the constellations. A short while later we passed a group of people going into a building out in the middle of nowhere. We decided to stop and visit after we realized it was a church. A guest speaker was giving a talk on - the gospel in the stars. After the talk I asked him where I could get the book I had read earlier. He told me and then gave me his own book on the subject. He seemed confused or something at my questions, and then the leader of the congregation said to him, 'He's not one of us'. That blew his mind, and we all started praising GOD. and singing 'How great thou are'.
God does work in mysterious ways to bring us to truths, doesn't He? We never know what He has in store for us or who we will come across in our daily walk.

Thank you for your sharing!

I am wondering if there are any female named stars in the heavens?
God calls earth His field and I believe Jerusalem to be the naval of the earth as in birth of the living and Israel is called the Woman.
Stars seem to be the sons of God just as Satan throws down 1/3 of the stars as we know as the fallen angels. Hummm..
I know that God is the God of all the earth for He created it, yet Jerusalem is where those who keep His Word are to be said to live... but if you take a look the star of David, it is in the shape of two pyramids coming together to make the star as in God over Egypt which I believe to be talking about the nations but ruled from Jerusalem by those who are the sons of God who will be birthed and rule and reign with Christ being the image of the Word of God.


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afaithfulone4u

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Maybe I'm wrong. I thought there were. Maybe it's just constellations, like Virgo.
Thank you for that.... I did not feel that there was because God talks of only having sons and the stars are also called angels. We never hear of a female angel for there are no need for genitals in heaven, only needed on earth to produce fleshly offspring after Adam fell due to obeying his wife over God then God gave them skin so that produce natural children so Eve could now have the children in her body.. in pain as part of her punishment. But in Christ we are spiritually born from above.

You know me I have to give a bunch of supporting scripture : )
Ps 147:5
4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.
KJV
Gen 22:17
17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
KJV
Deut 28:62
62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God.
KJV
Job 38:7-8
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
KJV
Rev 3:1
3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
KJV
Rev 6:13
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
KJV
Rev 12:1-9
12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV
 

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afaithfulone4u said:
You know me I have to give a bunch of supporting scripture : )
Nothing wrong with that when it's inspired by the Holy Spirit :)

Great topic by the way. I have been thinking about this subject lately too !! Even though I don't believe in astrological signs to guide your life as so many people do, I am interested in the fact that my sign is Aquarius, the water bearer. I read somewhere that regarding Godly signs, this constellation is in reference to the Holy Spirit. So naturally I am interested in it regarding this factor.

Gotta download that book CRFTD suggested.

Once again, nice topic. :)
 

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laid renard said:
Nothing wrong with that when it's inspired by the Holy Spirit :)

Great topic by the way. I have been thinking about this subject lately too !! Even though I don't believe in astrological signs to guide your life as so many people do, I am interested in the fact that my sign is Aquarius, the water bearer. I read somewhere that regarding Godly signs, this constellation is in reference to the Holy Spirit. So naturally I am interested in it regarding this factor.

Gotta download that book CRFTD suggested.

Once again, nice topic. :)
Thanks and glory be unto God for it.
Yes it sounds like a good source for understanding the signs that God gave to us.

The Holy Spirit washes us with the water of the Word to cleanse us so that we can have the joy of the Lord dwelling in our vessels/bodies.
Remember the 6 vessels that were FILLED with the (living)water who is Christ the living Word whom Jesus' mother(Holy Spirit) commanded the SERVANTS(Those who serve the Word) to obey JESUS and to be careful to do everything thing he(The Word) tells us to do? And once the vessels were completely filled with the (Living Water by the Spirit) fully immersed (Baptized in the Spirit to cleanse us with the living water), then the water in the vessels were turned to wine(Joy of the Holy Spirit filled life abundant in allareas of our life) and out of those 6(,000 yrs of fallen man)vessels who were now reborn from above(higher level of life) anew in the image of the "Stone"(that the builders rejected being in Christ), as a living stone, immovable in the faith and Word, were considered the best wine saved till last who will no longer serve in the end.... but will be Served(honored and waited on) at the wedding on the 3rd day in Cana.
Blessings