Aussie and Kiwi politics and events

[Josho]

I think Scomo will agree with Dan Andrews in extending the state of emergency in some way.

 

[Cristo Rei]

I think Scomo will agree with Dan Andrews in extending the state of emergency in some way.

All good comrade? ScoMo is lost... Sep 13 Dan is supposed to hand back his powers and reopen parliament... But Dan is trying to extend it by changing the law... He can do it now he has the power

We'll see what happens... Meanwhile watch some of the scandals I'm going to reveal here slowly. There is too much to release at once.

I feel like your innocence is going to be taken away in the coming months and years... As mine was when I was about your age as well... Making u more skeptical and rigid like us... Makes me sad

U know Satan is the prince of this world. U can see God I bet. But can u see Satan? If not then how will u know if he deceives u... IV got an intesting thread on spiritial warfare atm. U should check it out... God is real... Satan is real... Ignoring Satan work as well now ur an old man... LoL... Talk to me cos uv been quite and I'm concerned... What are u thinking... Spill it now cmon pv if u want. D&M

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I couldn't stop thinking of them when i saw the city in this state... Thats why i started looking at those old photos.

My dad would always say that he came here (from Europe) to give us (me and sis) a better life...
I didn't understand as a child but i do now. He was born and raised in the only fascist country left in Europe under dictator Antonio Salazar.

Then from 17yo he skipped country to avoid getting drafted into the fascist military, fighting their colonial wars still.
And he lived another 10 years, illegally, in the most racist society on earth, the only nation with apartheid.

My old man knows what real racism is and real oppression. And so when he came here in the early 70s he loved it and joined in...
He has such stories but... You could make a film from his life and it would be a top seller i reckon...

I worked with 2 real black as South Africans they were half African and half India both good Christians blokes and they told me the truth about all that and why they had to leave South Africa, they did not fear the whites, they feared the African Blacks would kill them in fact, they lived on the outer city but could not go out to the country or they would be killed by tribal mobs, even one tribe had to watch out for another in fear of being killed. but our media never bothered to informed us of such things, we are not worthy of such truths they claim.
Same with Islamic Nations we are not allowed to see the truth by our media, a group of Arabs came to our political meeting and they wanted to expose what goes on where they came from, but our media shoved them out of the way and will not allow such people a voice at all. they really wanted to get on TV and I have met many a good hard working Arab who has pleaded to me about other types of Arabs as to what they are like.
The way that they kill people over in the Arab world and the black Africa world the average Australian could not handle the facts at all.

In 1987 I moved to Darwin and Katherine, I went to the public pool once and that was enough for me, it was the knit picking and then the eating them like monkeys that drove us away from the pool. yep Apartheid had to be in forced for the good of all in South Africa and as was the case of the Australian with the abos in fact because they were savages in fact, the reality was that they could not have such people running loose in reality, they had to be civilised or else the history of conflict would off been much worse back in the days, most people do not know the facts of reality because the media and political schooling do not want to educate people or offend idiots. the same with USA the Indians were savages in fact and it was because they were killing people like they did that history turned out the way it did.
The Australian Government were not stupid back in the days and not to mention if you were white and you played up the Laws were truly harsh, well they had to be in fact. it's no good looking down on that generations like they love to do nowadays in total belligerent ignorance and in the next breath demand that Communism will save the world.

If it was Communism that was the power that took charge of Australia from the start, you would not even of known anything of the Aboriginals today, such would be the same with the USA today such things would not even be a subject.

Give Communism a chance is what they claim nowadays, well yes the Devil is very inviting till it truly controls you, then they will see the true face of such because you have no rights at all, because your all equal nothings, you don't have a voice ! Socialism attacks freedom of speech !

 

[Cristo Rei]

I worked with 2 real black as South Africans they were half African and half India both good Christians blokes and they told me the truth about all that and why they had to leave South Africa, they did not fear the whites, they feared the African Blacks would kill them in fact, they lived on the outer city but could not go out to the country or they would be killed by tribal mobs, even one tribe had to watch out for another in fear of being killed. but our media never bothered to informed us of such things, we are not worthy of such truths they claim.
Same with Islamic Nations we are not allowed to see the truth by our media, a group of Arabs came to our political meeting and they wanted to expose what goes on where they came from, but our media shoved them out of the way and will not allow such people a voice at all. they really wanted to get on TV and I have met many a good hard working Arab who has pleaded to me about other types of Arabs as to what they are like.
The way that they kill people over in the Arab world and the black Africa world the average Australian could not handle the facts at all.

In 1987 I moved to Darwin and Katherine, I went to the public pool once and that was enough for me, it was the knit picking and then the eating them like monkeys that drove us away from the pool. yep Apartheid had to be in forced for the good of all in South Africa and as was the case of the Australian with the abos in fact because they were savages in fact, the reality was that they could not have such people running loose in reality, they had to be civilised or else the history of conflict would off been much worse back in the days, most people do not know the facts of reality because the media and political schooling do not want to educate people or offend idiots. the same with USA the Indians were savages in fact and it was because they were killing people like they did that history turned out the way it did.
The Australian Government were not stupid back in the days and not to mention if you were white and you played up the Laws were truly harsh, well they had to be in fact. it's no good looking down on that generations like they love to do nowadays in total belligerent ignorance and in the next breath demand that Communism will save the world.

If it was Communism that was the power that took charge of Australia from the start, you would not even of known anything of the Aboriginals today, such would be the same with the USA today such things would not even be a subject.

Give Communism a chance is what they claim nowadays, well yes the Devil is very inviting till it truly controls you, then they will see the true face of such because you have no rights at all, because your all equal nothings, you don't have a voice ! Socialism attacks freedom of speech !

South Africa is were my dad lived for 10 years... He fled Portugal cos it was under a fascist regime, they just called themselves authoritarian after WW2...

If u want to talk about racism the Portuguese elite started the whole colonial era in the 15th century.
They brought slaves either to Portugal or Brasil... England and America came after Portugal and Brasil but they were both built on slave labour from the Africans...

And so what i find interesting is how the Portuguese speaking blacks don't have this same beef as the American blacks... Brasil has been a 3rd world country with the same history based on slavery yet i don't hear them claiming to be oppressed or anything. In fact iv met Portuguese speaking people from every continent on earth and its always been just a pleasure to meet and speak to them

Darwin has a big Timorese community... There are quite a few of them here

Ye then b4 my dad turned 18 he fled to keep from being taken into the Fascist army, goosestep and all...
My dad knew people who had gone to Sth Africa. So he caught a plane to Mozambique, allowed cos it was a Portuguese colony...

Then a group of them were led into the jungle and given directions to trek in and over the border...
African jungle, leopards, snakes, everything... Anyway he got busted first time and thrown in jail without trial...
Then they gave him 8 lashes and threw him back. Now he had no money left... So his tried again with a few boys and remembered the way...
Lucky he got in second time... Lived in Pretoria for 10 years, near the border, undercover... So he told me all about it.

He was like Indiana Jones crossed with Mick Dundee. Then he got to Australia and his story became boring, which exactly what he wanted. LoL

 

[Giuliano]

Brazil protesters: 'Black lives matter here, too'

 

[Josho]

Brazil protesters: 'Black lives matter here, too'

Hmmmm it's not good what's happening to the Amazons, and the natives from those areas certainly aren't liking it.

 

[Giuliano]

Hmmmm it's not good what's happening to the Amazons, and the natives from those areas certainly aren't liking it.

I think they have been quiet a long time figuring talking wouldn't help and might make things worse. Things seem to be getting worse and worse. Things may be reaching a breaking point if people figure they have nothing left to lose.

 

[marksman]

Hahaha your wifes family sound like the early Melbourne/Italiano mafia.
Gangland underground... hehehe... ... She must be Catholic then... Or was at least...
Being 3rd gen im guessing she doesn't speak Italian much...

Did your wife have to work when u were raising your kids???
My parents married and had me late (for back then)born in 77, both my parents worked in factory in Broadmeadows through the 80s and 90s
I know my mum would have preferred to had been with us growing up but she had to work.

According to todays charts and graphs of median wages, houses, etc it was much more affordable in the 70s and more so the 60s and 50s...
Would u say thats right? Was it more affordable? Could a mother be a mother?



I would have named u Moses, abandoned in a basket, i was just reminded of it... LoL...
Ok so your from the streets... Your not talking Hawthorn but the hoods beyond, around Dandy... What kind of work did u do...
Alotta nothing office jobs these days. Im in engineering, metal fab and mech.

Off course you got fed up with the traffic and the madness, the noise, the darkness, the concrete jungle... Me no like.
Everyone has followed you. I went out to Bairnsdale in Jan and i saw how much bigger all the towns had become since last time i was there...
Gippy is growing... I want to ahead out that way and chill as well. Past Gippy but, around the NSW south coast there. Outside of this communist state. Boat/fishing, bush, nature, take up birdwatching now that im getting on a bit, snow is not far

They might have well-been part of the mafia. If they were they have kept quiet about it. No religious bent in the family. My wife got saved at the 59 Billy Graham Crusade. Before that, nothing. NO Italian, but not sure about double dutch.

NO, I would not let my wife work as she had a full-time job raising children. That is the most important job of all. When the kids were in High School, she did a bit of part-time work but she was always there when they left in the morning and always there when they came home in the afternoon. I lost my job when the kids were young and it was hard going on unemployment pay but we made the kids the priority not an income.

Out first house was 80,000 and we had a big mortgage but we survived and after five years sold it for $150,000 so it was a good investment. Came out of it with no mortgage.

I was mainly in sales and ended up National Sales Manager for a book company. Gave it up and went to Uni for six years as a mature student and graduated with three degrees. I was fortunate to get a contract job with American Express which meant I could work when I wanted to. Went on to teaching yr 11 & 12. My wife was a teacher so the kids had us around full time for 12 weeks a year. Now I am well and truly retired. Some days I am more tired than others.

That is the end of the news. Now here is the weather forecast. Teenage years are guaranteed to be very stormy but some days it is quite sunny.

Dictator Dan is enough to drive anyone round the bend.

 

[Cristo Rei]

@marksman @Backlit @Josho

BIG NEWS

My dear comrades...
Many members of parliament have been calling for its open but the dictator will not relinquish his power
The greens are also demanding that parliament open up... And they expose the veil of secrecy... Read on...

Daniel Andrews made trade deals with China against the authority of the federal government... States don't do nations
And here we have a forrestry deal and a gas mining deal all being passed through unchecked...
Until next time komrades

 

[Cristo Rei]

WE CANNOT LEAVE THE BLOODY COUNTRY FOR ANOTHE YEAR... WHY NOT???
CAN ANYONE OFFER ANY LOGICAL EXPLINATION AS TO WHY WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE???
ANYONE...

IS THIS REALLY ABOUT SAVING LIVES NOW IS IT...
See what their calling people that won't take the vax... Defectors... DEFECTORS...

My dear Komrades... Its all over, its all set up for the vaccine extortion force... My plan A has been shattered by Daniel Stalin and Scott Hitler
U want your life back then take this experimental vaccine... Otherwise u must self isolate. An ankle bracelet or something will ensure you dont move... For the greater good

Now... They are going to enforce this unknow poison one way or another, within a year. My plan A is gone for now...
My parents and I have citizenship to the motherland so i have to do my own inquiry here... Im not statying for these needles... No way... No Poison that Bill Gates was involved in is going anywhere near me...

I do have a plan B assuming im in the minority... This is just so wild... Its coming and nothing is stopping it... Australia... pfffft.... weak mate... weak

 

[Cristo Rei]

Watch this whole video if u can cos its really good...
If you can't then please skip to 23 minute mark

Great idea. If they won't agree will drug them to agree... "Morality pills"

But the dissonance has reached a point of no return now... It reached that point at the very start when many people had their most core beliefs challenged... 7 months ago everyone on this forum had one firm belief that we all shared... That belief was the right to assemble and worship...

7 months ago everyone would of stood up and said no way. Not under war or pandemic has the church ever closer... EVER...
But instead many sacrificed their core beliefs. Ye we still have those rights, but... if their is covid then blah blah blah

Heavy dissonance. These people effectively put the word of the state before the word of God.
And now their so invested, so deeply entrenched that no amount of truth can ever save them

Thats why i thought that the people that had altered their religious beliefs were already gone...
Every other belief is smaller and much easier to alter... 7 months ago no one would of accepted tyranny...
Now... pffft... the dissonant excuses sicken me.. Its like Stockholm syndrome... Melbourne is gone... RIP komrade

 

[Cristo Rei]

Geez... Can't leave the country until we are all vaccinated next year... This global reset is a real pain at 40yo
20 years earlier or later and it wouldn't be so bad. But right in the middle of my life... u kidding me... Such a burden... Such a cross

 

[Josho]

Well there has been a rise in Aussie manufacturing during the pandemic, that is one good thing to come out of it.

 

[marksman]

Geez... Can't leave the country until we are all vaccinated next year... This global reset is a real pain at 40yo
20 years earlier or later and it wouldn't be so bad. But right in the middle of my life... u kidding me... Such a burden... Such a cross

There is one thing about your comments. They give us an alternative view and that is a good thing.

 

[marksman]

Well there has been a rise in Aussie manufacturing during the pandemic, that is one good thing to come out of it.

That is a good thing but has it been weighed against the cost of things to make that happen?

 

[Jay Ross]

Geez... Can't leave the country until we are all vaccinated next year... This global reset is a real pain at 40yo
20 years earlier or later and it wouldn't be so bad. But right in the middle of my life... u kidding me... Such a burden... Such a cross

There is one thing about your comments. They give us an alternative view and that is a good thing.

True marksman but for someone on this forum to continually encourage going against God with his comments by denigrating those who God has put/allowed to govern us is also not good for us as well.

Well there has been a rise in Aussie manufacturing during the pandemic, that is one good thing to come out of it.

That is a good thing but has it been weighed against the cost of things to make that happen?

The sad thing is that Australians will buy the cheapest things they can in as a means of saving cash but the reality has become that they have lost their jobs in doing so.

When Thesis was negotiating to export coal to Japan at the start of the Coal trade with them, Japan also wanted to balance the trade imbalance by exporting their good to Australia in exchange for buying the coal and Thesis told them that the Australian public would buy anything that was relatively cheap. So Japan started to export cars to Australia in exchange. The Japanese were concerned with the backlash from the WW2 and Thesis suggested to them to put the manufactures name on the back of their utes in large letters and so Toyota vehicles began their successful importation of their vehicles into Australia to become one of the popular car brands today. Australia and new Zealand have/had been very innovative in the design and application of new products and technologies but the head hunters from the rest of the world have stolen the brightest young people to work for them instead of them helping to build Australian manufacturing capabilities.

Businesses in Australia, in the most part, import what the want from over seas, who usually operate on a footpath warranty basis, because it is "cheaper" to do so at the cost of manufactures in Australia. At this present time, because of the fall off of other countries to be able to supply their "cheap" goods, Australian business have had to resort to Australian manufacturers for the goods that they want to keep their cash flows to survive.

There is a verse in the OT which tells us not to expand our farms by buying out those around us because this is not good for the land or the people. This is also true in the other activities of mankind that supplies the good that we need to be able to live today.

Has anyone considered that this world pandemic "crisis" may be God's way of attempting to reset the values of the people and how they live and interact with each other because of the opportunistic power hungry people wanting to rise to the top of the power trees in our societies without due regard for the welfare of the people they are dubbing.

Shalom

PS: - Why did God instruct Jeremiah to tell the nation of Israel to pray for the Babylonian Rulers and people when they were taken into captivity for 70 years. For Israel to live peacefully among them. To buy land etc.. Is our comrade's exhortations to rebel and to blame the leaders of our land on this forum a good thing for us to read? Somehow I do not think so.

 

[Josho]

That is a good thing but has it been weighed against the cost of things to make that happen?

It is what it is. Unless if you are a hobbyist, or have high tech machinery or are willing to work quite a bit below the minimum pay (even that option is hard, considering people are making $2 an hour overseas, and that doesn't pay bills in Australia), it's pretty hard to manufacture at a reduced cost in Australia.

The idea is you work, to pay your bills and to earn a bit more to hopefully save up for a house.

 

[Giuliano]

Hmm, so if you ordered a yacht, it's considered "urgent personal and unavoidable business" to go pick it up? Must be. I think someone needs voted out of office.

Entrepreneur allowed to leave Australia to collect new yacht - despite thousands being denied permission, even to see dying relatives

An Australian entrepreneur has been allowed to head overseas to pick up his new luxury yacht despite wide-ranging bans on people leaving Australia during the coronavirus pandemic.

Jost Stollmann told 9News he applied for an exemption on May 8 and again on May 19 on the grounds of urgent and unavoidable personal business to collect his yacht and to view real estate projects in Greece.

The request was granted on May 29.

The German-Australian says he thinks the exemptions are a violation of rights.

As a former CEO of Tyro Payments, he once hosted Prime Minister Scott Morrison when he was treasurer. He left the company in 2016.

Mr Stollmann says he's never been a political donor in Australia and that he did ask for help with his exemption from his local MP, Liberal Dave Sharma.​

 

[Cristo Rei]

Hmm, so if you ordered a yacht, it's considered "urgent personal and unavoidable business" to go pick it up? Must be. I think someone needs voted out of office.

Entrepreneur allowed to leave Australia to collect new yacht - despite thousands being denied permission, even to see dying relatives

An Australian entrepreneur has been allowed to head overseas to pick up his new luxury yacht despite wide-ranging bans on people leaving Australia during the coronavirus pandemic.

Jost Stollmann told 9News he applied for an exemption on May 8 and again on May 19 on the grounds of urgent and unavoidable personal business to collect his yacht and to view real estate projects in Greece.

The request was granted on May 29.

The German-Australian says he thinks the exemptions are a violation of rights.

As a former CEO of Tyro Payments, he once hosted Prime Minister Scott Morrison when he was treasurer. He left the company in 2016.

Mr Stollmann says he's never been a political donor in Australia and that he did ask for help with his exemption from his local MP, Liberal Dave Sharma.​

You know, i usually try and understand someone's logic especially if i don't agree... And usually i do find some understanding...
But in this case i can find no logic, (that fits the narrative) in keeping us trapped in Australia...
The fact that they allowed some rich guy overseas to buy a yacht doesn't surprise me...
Interesting that even that rich guy disagrees with our government saying "There is no right to restrict any Australian to visit his dying loved one in his last hour. It's an autocratic measure that endangers our democracy. This is incomprehensible and intolerable""

Meanwhile a friend of my dad died making it the second funeral that i am unable to attend...
God please shine the light on the road ahead

 

[Giuliano]

You know, i usually try and understand someone's logic especially if i don't agree... And usually i do find some understanding...
But in this case i can find no logic, (that fits the narrative) in keeping us trapped in Australia...
The fact that they allowed some rich guy overseas to buy a yacht doesn't surprise me...
Interesting that even that rich guy disagrees with our government saying "There is no right to restrict any Australian to visit his dying loved one in his last hour. It's an autocratic measure that endangers our democracy. This is incomprehensible and intolerable""

Meanwhile a friend of my dad died making it the second funeral that i am unable to attend...
God please shine the light on the road ahead

I visited the official site that gives the exceptions. I could understand telling people in Australia they couldn't leave and then expect back in without questions or without being able to prove they were healthy by quarantining; but what if someone wanted to leave and stay until the pandemic gets handled one way or another? If you left and didn't want to return as long the virus poses a threat, how are you endangering people in Australia just by leaving? I don't get it.

I read about a man whose fiancee was in another country. She wasn't allowed into Australia -- I could understand that somewhat since she wasn't an Australian citizen, but he was told he couldn't leave the country to be with her. That seemed harsh to me and unnecessary. If the country she was in would allow him in, what would the danger be to Australia to let him go? People in the government aren't thinking straight. They might do okay in ordinary times; but it looks as if they're coming apart at the seams under the pressure. When people are afraid like that, they can get dictatorial. It's like a man who beats his wife when he's afraid she might not love him anymore. He makes things worse.