Australia Day - Should the date change?

[Josho]

So there is a lot of discussion in Australia at the moment about changing the date of Australia day, and it's not a matter of if but when.

In one of the polls nearly 50% don't want to change the date, 28% don't want to and the rest don't know..... But..... 18-24 years olds showed a 47% support of changing the date, while those aged 55 and over, only 19% of them support it.

I am honestly in the not fussed position, if they do decide to change the date, as it had been changed before, and the current day it is celebrated has only been celebrated since 1994, so if they want to change it go ahead with it, also I am not fussed because it is an issue that has nothing to do with Salvation.

Why do some people want the date change?

The current date January 26, was the day the first fleet landed in Port Jackson in 1788, following the colonization of Australia by th British Empire, many Aboriginals were massacred, and that is the reason why some want the date changed, and some call today invasion day...

The British Empire also used Australia as a prisoner island, they brought many convicts over, and many of them were treated roughly, and lived through the toughest of conditions and a lot of convicts died also.

History has been very unfair and violent in the past...... No wonder why some people want to change the date, and I have no doubt that the date Australia's national day is celebrated on will one day change.

So if it gets changed what should the date be changed too?

Some are suggesting May 8, "mate" day.

Nearly half of all Australians opposed to Australia Day date change, says poll

@Jay Ross @quietthinker @Cristo Rei @Scoot @Backlit @marksman

What are your thoughts on this?

 

[Josho]

So there is a lot of discussion in Australia at the moment about changing the date of Australia day, and it's not a matter of if but when.

In one of the polls nearly 50% don't want to change the date, 28% don't want to and the rest don't know..... But..... 18-24 years olds showed a 47% support of changing the date, while those aged 55 and over, only 19% of them support it.

I am honestly in the not fussed position, if they do decide to change the date, as it had been changed before, and the current day it is celebrated has only been celebrated since 1994, so if they want to change it go ahead with it, also I am not fussed because it is an issue that has nothing to do with Salvation.

Why do some people want the date change?

The current date January 26, was the day the first fleet landed in Port Jackson in 1788, following the colonization of Australia by th British Empire, many Aboriginals were massacred, and that is the reason why some want the date changed, and some call today invasion day...

The British Empire also used Australia as a prisoner island, they brought many convicts over, and many of them were treated roughly, and lived through the toughest of conditions and a lot of convicts died also.

History has been very unfair and violent in the past...... No wonder why some people want to change the date, and I have no doubt that the date Australia's national day is celebrated on will one day change.

So if it gets changed what should the date be changed too?

Some are suggesting May 8, "mate" day.

Nearly half of all Australians opposed to Australia Day date change, says poll

@Jay Ross @quietthinker @Cristo Rei @Scoot @Backlit @marksman

What are your thoughts on this?

@mjrhealth

 

[mjrhealth]

@mjrhealth

Could care less as long as I get a day off, too much politics and racism, not getting involved

 

[Taken]

So there is a lot of discussion in Australia at the moment about changing the date of Australia day, and it's not a matter of if but when.

In one of the polls nearly 50% don't want to change the date, 28% don't want to and the rest don't know..... But..... 18-24 years olds showed a 47% support of changing the date, while those aged 55 and over, only 19% of them support it.

I am honestly in the not fussed position, if they do decide to change the date, as it had been changed before, and the current day it is celebrated has only been celebrated since 1994, so if they want to change it go ahead with it, also I am not fussed because it is an issue that has nothing to do with Salvation.

Why do some people want the date change?

The current date January 26, was the day the first fleet landed in Port Jackson in 1788, following the colonization of Australia by th British Empire, many Aboriginals were massacred, and that is the reason why some want the date changed, and some call today invasion day...

The British Empire also used Australia as a prisoner island, they brought many convicts over, and many of them were treated roughly, and lived through the toughest of conditions and a lot of convicts died also.

History has been very unfair and violent in the past...... No wonder why some people want to change the date, and I have no doubt that the date Australia's national day is celebrated on will one day change.

So if it gets changed what should the date be changed too?

Some are suggesting May 8, "mate" day.

Nearly half of all Australians opposed to Australia Day date change, says poll

@Jay Ross @quietthinker @Cristo Rei @Scoot @Backlit @marksman

What are your thoughts on this?

Nothing new. Change history then a person can ignore the truth.

 

[mjrhealth]

Nothing new. Change history then a person can ignore the truth.

Besides captain cook never discovered australia, plenty where here long before Him, chinese , french who knows who else

 

[quietthinker]

it's an irrelevant issue to me

 

[Taken]

Besides captain cook never discovered australia, plenty where here long before Him, chinese , french who knows who else

Discovery of Australia was a new discovery to The British Empire.
Australia's Independence does not eradicate the History of the British Empires Discovery, or any other nations discovery.

 

[Josho]

Discovery of Australia was a new discovery to The British Empire.
Australia's Independence does not eradicate the History of the British Empires Discovery, or any other nations discovery.

This is very true.

But if a date is changed, I don't think that matters much, so long as we have a national day to celebrate Australia.

As PM Scott Morrison put it though, it was the day that started what we now know as modern Australia, it's how we got to where we are today

 

[Brakelite]

I think it should be on the 31st September.

 

[mjrhealth]

We need more holidays at the end of the year

 

[Josho]

We need more holidays at the end of the year

In between June and AFL Grand Final Eve in September there needs to be another holiday

 

[Jay Ross]

@Josho, as a "Christian" Country, and "scientific research," it has been claimed that the Aboriginal People first inhabited the "island" of Australia some 60,000 years ago.

However, the history of the world as presented in Genesis 1-11 would suggest that this is not so. It really becomes whether we believe the Bible or the Science of dating artefacts. From my research of the Chronology of the Bible, it is my understanding that the Flood which Noah was able to live through occurred around the year 2,400 BC. The scattering of the nations from the land of Babylon where the tower of Babel had been started to be built, occurred during the life of Peleg who lived during the years 2,342 -2,103 BC and the scattering of the nations probably occurred after the birth of Abraham around the year 2,150 BC. If we believe the Bible and accept that my conclusions with regards to the years described in Genesis 8-11 is reasonably accurate within plus or minus 100 years, then the Bible would suggest that that the earliest Aboriginals occupation of the land of Australia could not have occurred before 2,400 BC as within the Dreamtime Accounts of Aboriginal history, they too have the story of the Flood during the life of Noah as a fact, only some 4,420 years ago.

The presently recognised Aboriginal people groups also "invaded" the Land of Australia and their stories indicate that they too displaced an earlier settlement of the land of Australia who were forced into the south-eastern corner of the Australian continent and Tasmania. We have no records or evidence which would verify this claim.

As for the decimation of the Aboriginal tribes through sickness, many "white" people who came from England also died through sickness because of the lack of medical understanding and the transfer of those sickness between the people. The history of Norfolk tells a brutal story of the abuse of the convicts and the poor understanding of how to control the diseases that were common in those days with their "best" technology that existed at that time.

What came into conflict was a lack of understanding of the very different protocols and resulting "laws" that operated within the respective cultures and their expectations.

Many mistakes occurred on both sides and that is what is being exploited by the vocal minority within Australia to gain the power they desire.

As a wise person has observed, of a funeral, there are no Pan-am trucks full of the person's treasures in the cortege following the corpse to the grave site.

We come into this world with nothing more than our birthday suite and we also leave the same way, tarted up a little to give a memorable experience to those who gaze into the open coffin.

Many people within the Aboriginal community believe that their story is linked to the land that their tribe once occupied however, the loss of their story is linked more to their loss of their language in which their story has been embedded. This is also true for the other cultures as well and our "historical" stories only span the ability of our memories to recall those stories and the messages that we want within those stories.

I am a proud second generational Australian. MY Grandfather was an Irishman who come to Australia on a slow cargo ship before WW1. Our family tree of where we came from has been difficult to unravel because of the circumstances of rebellion within Ireland and the burning of records etc.. Although my Grandfather was saddened to what happened in Ireland during his lifetime, he to became a fiercely loyal Australian because of the love of his life. What I learned from him was that we had to get on with our lives and made do with what we have.

In the 1970 one man, in Australia, was responsible for stealing the dignity of every Australian, irrespective of the colour of their skin, and took away from them their independence and control of their lives by making them dependent upon the Government for handouts.

Before that time, we had people who were self sufficient and able to survive and live happy comfortable lives. That was what was taken away by this mans well meaning efforts to support those who were not as "well off" as the other hard working people within their communities.

Our "story" is the story that some people want to be their accepted "truth," but the facts of the matter is that unless we all forgive each other for the past sins of our "fathers," instead of being confrontational in our approaches to each other, nothing will be resolved and the sins of our past cultural differences will become inflamed and the nation will become deeply divided.

Progressive elected governments have tried to improve the lot of the Aboriginal People by the throwing away of money at the "supposed" problem, but this has lead to discrimination of the "white" people who have had to pay for the privileges that the Aboriginal people now enjoy.

Many people of Aboriginal descent, whether full or part, have integrated themselves into the main culture of Australia, and lead wonderfully useful lives in our scattered communities. The pride of those who do not accept their self created circumstances on both sides of the colour divide needs to be healed before the Nation of Australia can proceed forward.

The enemies of the Australian landscape are the foreign ideologies that are being drawn upon in the hope of making Australia a better place but repentance and forgiveness is not a part of that ideological understanding, but oppression is.

Shalom

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I never gave a toss about Australia day in my school days or working, as I would have to work regardless.
I think it all changed from say 1990 that Australia Day was created to be a big thing created by TV.

It's all TV hype day to me now and has all became insane, controlled by the dictating Cultural Marxist whore Media who are forcing a line that all must follow and believe or else they will use malice against all who stand up to them.

Australian of the year etc is just total rubbish nowadays, that it's a joke that we have people now who are elevated like such who should never be placed in such a position, not to mention it's all political quackery Socialist dribble grand standing foundations.

The so called Aboriginal hype is down right shameful, full of white idiots claiming to be black and dribbling so much rubbish.

I would vote to stop the Day now, not to mention we are not truly Australia any more, more like South east Asia, that's what we are becoming and the new white trash mentality dominates due to TV media elevating and supporting such Godless morons. they bag and rundown true Australia 24/7 and outright bagging a old sports woman, running her down for her Christian ethics and trying to shove her out and undermine her in everyway they can, typical or the Satanic total bigots that they truly are. how despicable !
She was once entitled to her own opinions in this Nation, but sadly the Satanist Socialist bigots have worked to undermine freedom of speech in this Nation and the poor stupid bastards will come to a day, that such deranged simpletons will reap what they have sown, they who stomp on freedom of speech will not be free, they only are s-----g in their own nest.
Fact is the when the UK claimed Australia, it was the best thing for them that ever happened, they should only thank their luck, fact is that no one wants to live pre UK Australia unless you are a full blood Aboriginal and I have no problem with them people at all, but the whites who make claims of representing Aboriginal Australia are a trash rabble disgrace, who are Satanist peddling lies and distorting the truth and facts of the matters, for their own deranged ends.
Anyone who looks down on the UK creation of Australia is a total moron. I take my hat off to the UK to what they created in this Nation.
When Asia finally takes over Australia the Abo's will get nothing at all Zero ! no dole no land rights nothing, they will have to work for a living or die. in Asia if you crash and brake a leg etc well what do they call that ? so as far as our abo's go, they will not give a second thought to them at all.
Grow up Australia ! you are being taken for a ride by the media and every con-artist jerk, not to mention Satanist Communist inspired intentions to undermine us all.