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Jerry Huerta

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In my view all false doctrine is Satanic (doctrines of demons/devils), so I was not saying you are not a Christian or that you are part of a cult. I believe the false doctrine that Christ isn't reigning now is Satanic, but that doesn't mean I believe salvation is dependent on believing that Christ is reigning now as opposed to Him not reigning until He returns. A cultist would not believe that He ever reigns.


You misunderstood what I said just like you misunderstand much scripture.
Yeah, but I could make the same accusations, but I resist. I rather stick to the scriptural evidence, unlike you.

Like I said, you got a taste of your own medicine, and you didn’t like it. :csm
 
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You want to deal with the scriptural evidence and history or just make denials, like you're the authority? :csm
I know Revelation because I have prophetic dreams too. I know how John saw and interpreted it. John did not know what he wrote after he wrote it down. Just like Peter saw the sheet coming down in Acts. If you haven't had prophetic dreams, you are making a guess.
 

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Yeah, but I could make the same accusations, but I resist. I rather stick to the scriptural evidence, unlike you.

Like I said, you got a taste of your own medicine, and you didn’t like it. :csm
Yes, you are always polite and never make things personal. Sure. How about we just don't talk to each other at all, eh? I think that's for the best.
 

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I know Revelation because I have prophetic dreams too. I know how John saw and interpreted it. John did not know what he wrote after he wrote it down. Just like Peter saw the sheet coming down in Acts. If you haven't had prophetic dreams, you are making a guess.
Well then, your dreams should agree with the scriptures. I don't see any scripture or interpretation. If you think I'm going to take your dreams as evidence, you're sadly mistaken.
 

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You were the one that said you were done, and here you are again. See, you're not honest. I must have something important, otherwise you wouldn't keep returning. :csm
What does it say about you that you try to keep me coming back despite knowing that I didn't want to continue? I'm not taking the bait anymore. I'm done with you now and this is my final answer.
 

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Do you know how to research? If you did you could think for yourself. Do you not believe the Holy Spirit will show you? John 16:13
The Holy Spirit has shown me through the scriptures, which I produced above. Where are your interpretation of the scriptures? I don't see any. If you think dismissals are sufficient, you're fooling yourself, but not me. :csm
 

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The Holy Spirit has shown me through the scriptures, which I produced above. Where are your interpretation of the scriptures? I don't see any. If you think dismissals are sufficient, you're fooling yourself, but not me. :csm
Where did you get yours? Certain it wasn't the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit said He would teach me. John 14:26
and He has.
 

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Here’s a clue. The Historicists that thoughtlessly retained the beasts’ amill stance never grasped amill thoughtlessly supports just two groups when Christ returns.
Yes, the Reformers, who were martyred by the thousands for the truth, were thoughtless.

Keep those gems coming. :laughing:

How about some verbatim quotes from Reformers supporting your fallacious fantasy of "three groups"?
 
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Yes, the Reformers, who were martyred by the thousands for the truth, were thoughtless.

Keep those gems coming. :laughing:

How about some verbatim quotes from Reformers supporting your fallacious fantasy of "three groups"?
As to the thoughtless Reformers, those would be the ones that held intercourse with the kings of the earth, which enriched the merchants.

As for reformers seeing three groups, Joseph Mede was one of the first. Do your own homework for the rest. :csm
 

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As to the thoughtless Reformers, those would be the ones that held intercourse with the kings of the earth, which enriched the merchants.

As for reformers seeing three groups, Joseph Mede was one of the first. Do your own homework for the rest. :csm
Did they burn at the stake for holding intercourse? :laughing:

Which you conveniently incessantly ignore, Mede is not in the list of Reformers.

Prove your unprovable claims. :laughing:
 
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Did they burn at the stake for holding intercourse? :laughing:

Which you conveniently incessantly ignore, Mede is not in the list of Reformers.

Prove your unprovable claims. :laughing:
On this day in 1553, the condemned heretic Michael Servetus was burned at the stake in Geneva, largely thanks to the efforts of theologian and Protestant reformer John Calvin. Joseph Hartropp

Joseph Mede (1586-1639) is one of the most fascinating figures from the twilight of the Reformation. He was not only a widely influential church scholar, but also a naturalist and Egyptologist. Mede was well schooled in Biblical languages, subjects he lectured on at Christ’s College of the University of Cambridge. Mede broke with his contemporaries in returning to the literal interpretation of the prophetic Scriptures. His book, The Key of the Revelation, was a clarion call for a return to Premillennialism. by Matthew Ervin

Mede won't be on the list of Amills as a reformer, but he will be on the list of prominent Premillennialists. And Premillennialism is prominent today.
 
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The Holy Spirit said the book of Revelation is ended. What did the Holy Spirit tell you. Exact words?
What in the world do you mean ended? I've already given a post with scriptures upholding my interpretation. Where are yours? I bet you didn't even read them because you think you speak from authority. You don't! :csm